Floor plan: Ideas for the upper floor

First of all, the house is quite big o_O.

I find it rather okay to small for 2 adults and 2 children (who will later also become young adults).

And 13 sqm for a child is okay, I think.

I find that clearly too small. As already posted before, they will become teenagers/young adults and from about 12/13 years on it is too small. Nowadays children also tend to stay at home longer if the location allows it (e.g. conveniently located near a university/college).

Everything must also be kept clean.

Exactly, that’s why I would also plan space for a base station of a Vorwerk Kobold or something similar on every floor. Likewise, I would plan so generously that no niches, dirty corners, etc. arise and both the robot vacuum and oneself can get everywhere comfortably. And you also need space sometimes to move furniture to vacuum the dust behind it. I am rather of the opinion that larger apartments/houses with enough open areas, organizing space, storage space (not just a central basement, but something everywhere where you need it) are SIMPLER to keep clean than small apartments/houses. The number of furniture pieces on a larger area does not significantly increase, so there isn’t more cleaning to do. But whether I can comfortably maneuver the vacuum cleaner around the couch or have to squeeze behind it to clean, or whether I can move furniture around spaciously and clean behind it, or whether I can just barely get around furniture, bed, etc. with a cordless vacuum, makes a difference.

At some point, these rooms will also be empty - and I was often at friends’ places with maybe 10 sqm, where we hung out as 4-6. Nobody cared back then... Kids simply don’t care about that... I wouldn’t put priority on that and thus avoid problems with the floor plan.

And I had something around 30-40 sqm and thought it was great. Also, everything had its place and nothing was cramped, later on the children’s room practically becomes both living area and sleeping area. If the rooms stand empty at some point and you really don’t need the space anymore, you can gladly sell the house or pass it on early. That happened to a friend who will soon move back into his parents’ house - as owner. Surely he will pay them some money, and the parents, in the best age basically and still working, fit, cyclists, etc., will probably move to a chic city apartment together. They, for example, no longer want to do gardening, but prefer to go to the opera or theater. If it’s a good location, the house will always sell well and certainly without losses.

Oh, so that's why you are like that - anyone who later wants to make a Grym out of their children should plan oversized children's rooms :)

Apart from that, what you're saying is just out-of-touch nonsense again... great locations are not as common as sand by the sea and very few normal people can afford them.

And you don't think that's big? Some time ago your house was planned to be much smaller and you convinced yourself otherwise with other, absurd arguments.

You are really a freak :)

And I have learned that with ~130sqm you cannot win any prizes, because it lacks in every respect.

Besides, I said if you build in a good location, you can easily get rid of the house again without losses. If...

And I've learned that with ~130sqm you can't win any prizes because it's lacking in every way.

Besides, I said that if you build in a good location, you can easily sell the house again without losses. If...

With reasonably planned 130 sqm, nothing is lacking. More is nicer, but better is always possible...

2 children's rooms together 35; living/dining at least 35; utility room+HAR at least 15, kitchen 10, study 10, bathroom upstairs + toilet downstairs 15, bedroom and dressing room at least 20, entrance area 5 we are already at 145 and still have not included any corridor space. And nowhere is any area excessively large or wasteful. With necessary corridors we are comfortably always at 160 sqm.

Great location does not necessarily have to be right in the city center or in the best preferred area. For example, we are building 6 km from the city center in a suburb. It is quiet here, and at the same time the university/city center can be reached in 10-12 minutes by bus (6 times per hour during peak hours) or 15 minutes by bike, with local supplies all nearby and within walking distance from doctor/pharmacy to hairdresser, various bakeries and butchers, supermarket, discounter, etc.

There are certainly much more exclusive locations here, but this is a good location where you can definitely sell the house. And I would not worry at all about whether the children's rooms become too big once the children have moved out. If that should be the case, or if we rather want an apartment in the city instead of a house with garden, then the house will be sold and that's it. And for the age from 12 to moving out (whenever that may be) 12 sqm is too little.

Nonsense...