Family house in Allgäu - Presentation of our planning

  • Erstellt am 2016-02-01 10:17:54

allgäuer

2016-02-01 10:17:54
  • #1
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 516 sqm
Slope location: No
Floor plan: 157.5 sqm
GF: 280 sqm
Building window: approx. 14 x 10m
Edge development: No (3m distance)
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof shape: Gable roof
Architectural style: not specified
Orientation: Eaves-facing (roof ridge runs east/west)
Maximum heights/limits: WH 5.2 – 5.7m / FH: 7.2m
Additional specifications:
- Root stocks from previous use (orchard) are on the plot.
- Tolerance of the playground and boundary to agricultural land.
- Planting of a native fruit tree in the garden.

Clients’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Modern, gable roof, family house
Basement, floors: Basement, two full floors
Number of people and age: Currently 4 people (32, 32, 3, 1, -> + 2 more children desired)
Space requirements on
Ground floor: Master bedroom, living/dining area, entrance area
Upper floor: 4 children's rooms, bathroom, open office - not attic but open.
Office use: hobby only (photography, photo editing)
Guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: Open
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Yes
Number of dining seats: 10
Fireplace: clear maybe
Music/stereo wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: No
Additional wishes:
- A hobby workshop for bicycles and Vespa scooters is to be located in the basement. In addition, there should be a storage room for bicycles and everyday scooters – accessible via an excavation. (open excavation, not too steep)
- Special features/daily routine:
The house is lively throughout the day because I work shifts (early/late/night shift) - so we do not have a "normal" daily routine. In addition, our children attend kindergarten in the mornings from the age of three - otherwise no external care. In the afternoons we are mostly all at home.

House Design
Who designed it: Do-it-Yourself
What is particularly liked?
- The large and open family living space on the ground floor, which faces completely south = very bright, even in winter with low sun we do not have shadows cast by adjacent buildings/objects.
- Also morning and evening sun in the family area.
- Each children's room has two windows, which make the rooms very bright and well ventilated.
- The garden on the south side is very usable due to the northern location of the house within our plot, especially for the children.
- The placement of the four almost equally sized children's rooms on the upper floor, providing the children with a retreat, including their own bathroom.
- We also like the open, spacious and bright entrance area, where guests can be welcomed without feeling cramped.
- The accommodation of the Vespa workshop and Vespa collection inside the house and the accessibility from outside.

What is not liked?
- No direct view of the Alps

Binding price quote according to architect/construction company: €351,000
Personal price limit for house and basement, including fittings: €400,000
Preferred heating technology: Natural gas heating

If you have to give up, on which details/extras
- can you give up: -
- cannot give up: -

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Hello and greetings from the Allgäu,
First of all, a big compliment and sincere thanks for all the good contributions, advice, and insights here in this forum! A truly great achievement and the lively participation here is really more than helpful! Thank you!

Now I would also like to take the opportunity to present our house construction. The goal is to start a deepened dialogue to learn from it. Nothing more and nothing less! Critical and questioning contributions are warmly welcome! (We are open to criticism and advice!)

A brief crash course on our house construction and planning, which has accompanied us for about 5 years:
In 2011 we applied to the city for a plot here in XXXXXXX in the Allgäu. The plan was to designate a new development area on a former orchard in 2013.

In 2015, after delays due to animal protection discussions*, it was finally time – mid-June we received approval for a building plot. The development now consists of 36 plots and there were about 560 applicants. To choose a plot, we were invited to the town hall and luckily our desired plot was still available! This was very pleasing since we only found out at the appointment which plots were still free. Therefore, before the appointment, we discussed which plot we liked best and which could serve as an alternative. Since mid-November, we have been officially registered as plot owners.

Since we have been mentally dealing with the house construction for five years now, I consider our planning and approach well thought-out and grounded. And honestly, I am very glad we had to "suffer" these delays. A lot has changed in our lives over the past five years, which has had many unexpected consequences:
- We have had two children and would like to have two more children.
- Living without debt has allowed me to take a year off from work to complete a full-time training course. This circumstance now brings a great advantage in professional life and also led to an optimization of income.
- Another hobby has developed which I no longer want to miss.
- ...
In summary, we would have needed a very different house in 2011 than now, and we would also have approached financing very differently: inexperienced and unaware of the financial requirements of the "family" life model. In other words: This externally caused delay was our great luck!

Now to our planning and the attached floor plan:
We have explored our budget and found that we can realize our "dream house" – a house that meets our current needs and ideal ideas regarding room layout and size. This is a very nice thought, and we are very happy about it. We have planned a house that we need NOW and for the next 20 years – for the prime of our lives! How we use the four children's rooms later when our children move out is not known to us now and, frankly, not very important.
The floor plan is mainly oriented towards a bright living area for the family. The children should also be able to retreat, and we want to place a large dining table. Additionally, we want a generous entrance area. Furthermore, I need a workspace for my hobby (photography), i.e., a small office which we will implement in the "hallway" area of the upper floor (= corner desk will be placed where the armchair is currently drawn).

Many things have ultimately been subordinated to these requirements, and we are very satisfied with the attached floor plan.

The following things are not yet considered in the plot planning/layout:
- We currently have one car and have planned one parking space for it. The goal is to keep it at one car! However, if it cannot be otherwise, we will have to "retrofit" another parking space where we can park the car.
- I want to pursue another hobby in the next few years: astronomy – for this I may need a suitable place for a telescope, ideally a pavilion in the garden.

We look forward to your opinions and input!
Thank you very much in advance for your participation!

Best regards,

Family Allgäuer

PS:
Current status: Construction contract is now ready for signing. It was important to me to discuss and include every detail in the contract BEFORE signing. This included details such as the material of the water pipes (stainless steel), staircase step height (17.5 cm), etc. This process took four weeks in total but was very important to me personally. Trust in architect and construction company = 100%!

* Specifically, it concerned a species of toad that regularly migrates through the construction area. A pond directly borders the construction area, which is a nature reserve.


 

nordanney

2016-02-01 10:49:55
  • #2
Normally, I don’t write anything about drafts because that’s not my area. However, I do notice the oversized hallway (you call it spacious). If you are planning an even larger family, I would rather think about how to accommodate the family generously in the living space instead of sacrificing a hallway that is only rarely used (what else besides putting on and taking off jackets/shoes?) for an expensive price.
 

b54

2016-02-01 11:29:26
  • #3
If you are already blacking out the names, I would directly change the image names as well, otherwise I also find the hallway unnecessarily large
 

Legurit

2016-02-01 12:04:02
  • #4
I don't think it's bad. Does a wardrobe fit in the master bedroom? How many square meters is it in total? 158 can't be right.
 

Doc.Schnaggls

2016-02-01 12:06:28
  • #5
Hello,

compared to the entire house, I personally also find the hallway on the ground floor somewhat large.

The bathrooms, on the other hand, would be too small for me, both on the ground floor and the upper floor.

The sliding door planned from the hallway into the living/dining area seems very narrow to me, at least visually (in relation to the size of the hallway). Here, I would at least have a double-leaf sliding door installed – that would give a much more generous impression.

If it were my house, I would consider replacing the staircase with a half-turned staircase. That saves space and would allow the hallway to be reduced in favor of the master bathroom.

The children's rooms are a decent size. However, with four children's rooms, I would at least plan a second washbasin in the children's bathroom.

Regards,

Dirk
 

backbone23

2016-02-01 12:35:01
  • #6
The two hallways are a joke. The air space is, in my opinion, unnecessary and useless.

Roughly estimated, that's 25 sqm of wasted space with corresponding costs (~40,000 € ?!) - crazy!

Edit: Ok, the large hallway downstairs was requested, but why? It doesn't offer much space for furniture or similar.

The hallway upstairs is supposed to be a computer workstation. Well, I would probably put it somewhere else. Air space still unnecessary.

You have an architect?! Why isn't he planning?
 

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