Economic stimulus package - room for speculation

  • Erstellt am 2020-05-14 08:53:35

Reinhard84.2

2020-05-14 15:19:57
  • #1


I see it differently... higher, faster, further – wearing out more people and the environment faster for our consumption is not a good path, even if unfortunately it will come to that.

And: Self-employed, entrepreneurs, etc. want a lean state (no taxes) but want to be sheltered in papa state's protective arms at every little breeze that blows. Maybe the business simply wasn’t built on a solid foundation. Shouldn’t one always have at least 3 months of reserves? Shouldn’t something be sold first (car, house, apartment) before getting money from the state?

That also makes me so angry because I work in the public service and already know that in the next years it will mean tightening the belt. (The crisis, terrible, no money available). While business is booming again for the ‘self-employed.’ Then he pats me on the shoulder with the wise saying that my salary is secure. That’s true, but never as secure and high as the ‘entrepreneur’s’… but he also takes on a high risk…

And last but not least, a court decides that breathing masks must be paid for by Hartz 4. That is so sarcastic.
 

haydee

2020-05-14 15:39:12
  • #2
What are 3 months? For many, they are almost over. Especially since that is very theoretical. According to your definition, almost no small company is solid. Can you survive 3 months without income, without overdraft, with full costs? It is precisely the SMEs that pay a lot, very much in taxes. They cannot shift it abroad. They pay taxes on the profit from which they have to invest, from which they have to live. Ideally, the sales tax is also deducted and the customer does not pay. Do you know what it means, company closed? Personal bankruptcy. Harz4. Houses do not sell overnight. Sounds very simple. By the way, then their workers, like temporary workers in industry, hairdressers, etc., immediately end up at the employment office. First unemployment benefit I and next year unemployment benefit II. There will be no work that quickly. Then I will say quite polemically: Why should masks be paid for with my taxes? So many sew and make their own. I would rather have my taxes used so that many do not even have to apply for unemployment benefit I or II.
 

Reinhard84.2

2020-05-14 15:42:18
  • #3

Yes, of course

Why should taxes contribute to you not exchanging your x3 for a Fiat? Said polemically
 

Ybias78

2020-05-14 16:14:08
  • #4
And why? Due to pressure from outside. Or do you think they would have done it voluntarily if they had uncompromising support from the state? I'll put it this way. An entrepreneur has to bear business risk. It starts with farmers who complain when the summer is too hot and ends with suppliers and manufacturers in the automotive industry. When companies are doing very well, they do everything to pay as little tax to the state as possible. But when they are doing badly, they do everything to get as much money as possible from the state. Something doesn't add up there....
 

haydee

2020-05-14 16:27:23
  • #5
Do you know sleepless nights because once again everything comes together and your existence hangs by a thread? It affects many employees, not just entrepreneurs who caused it themselves. Everyone wants to cover all risks and buffer everything as easily as possible, your craftsmen on the construction site easily cost double and only work against the sales price. Then people get upset and the Poles take over.

Farmers would have fewer problems if they got reasonable prices for food. But no, prices here have to be extremely low and the sector is kept alive through subsidies. Go to Norway and do some shopping there. Then you’ll know what it means for the consumer when farmers are paid properly and not kept alive by subsidies.

And the tax-saving possibilities for SMEs are rather limited and not infinite. Especially many equity holders pay taxes normally like everyone else.
 

Ybias78

2020-05-14 18:29:13
  • #6
I have secured myself as much as possible through a very good education (studied 100% self-financed). Before that, I also completed training as an industrial clerk. I also chose a field of study that: A) I really enjoy BUT B) is also offered on the market. Besides, we are in Germany. The saying still applies here: Whoever wants to work will find work. I have many friends who came from Poland and with sometimes very poor German skills immediately got very good jobs. With up to €18/hour. And there was not one who did not find a job. I think there are simply far too many farmers in Germany. In the EU, there are countries that can do it just as well but much cheaper. And the fact that about 3/4 of the EU subsidies go into agriculture is a joke. You are absolutely right about the prices. In Germany, the saying goes: "Stinginess is cool." I prefer to buy meat, vegetables, and fruit from the farmer I trust rather than from discounters. I rather spend 20%+ more there.
 

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