Critical feedback on the floor plan desired

  • Erstellt am 2016-11-09 12:16:53

Climbee

2016-11-09 16:14:11
  • #1
Accessible and 90 cm doors are a contradiction. Please plan with 100 cm doors!!! At least for the rooms that should be wheelchair accessible (so at least those on the ground floor).

Is the bathtub in the children's bathroom deliberately planned that way? Please also plan enough first aid supplies in the bathroom. When my nieces and nephews are bathing, it's prime time, chaos, and then such a corner in the children's urge to move around... Hopefully you have first aid training.
And probably they don't bathe every day, right? Then they shower. But it’s purely wishful thinking that the little ones will nicely stay in the corner while doing so.
Meaning: you can clean the window there every day, it will definitely get sprayed all over. And that corner where the tub stands will surely be a lot of fun to clean as well.

But wait: THE solution!!! Train children to be willing cleaning slaves, they have smaller fingers anyway and get much better into the corners! And if they are conditioned accordingly, then of course they will nicely clean the window every time after showering/bathing.
That makes my previous objections obviously obsolete. And the scenario mentioned here is of course totally realistic. If that works, you could actually afford the most expensive architect, because if you figure out how to condition children that way, you’ll make a lot of money, all parents will be lining up!
(In that case I’ll manage your parenting school, ok?)
 

ypg

2016-11-09 16:54:15
  • #2


No, no, no!

Everything is so angled because you have to draw corners without a plan,
so that the rooms can even get a door to the hallway.

I assume that my questions will no longer be answered, and no site plan will be provided.

If this is, for you, the seemingly 2000th draft, I must unfortunately say that a lot of time has been wasted here. That is always very unfortunate—and I wonder why you didn’t realize after the 10th attempt that drawing (even with a program) and understanding measurements are not your strong suit.

A few pencil sketches on graph paper would have provided the same basis for discussion.

...and the realization that a standard house from the many construction companies and home builders is more functional.

I don’t understand: You now have no other requirement than what the city villas offer you. So why not take a model house and make small changes there?

Greetings
 

Lanini

2016-11-10 07:41:16
  • #3
I, for example, cannot understand that. We also designed our floor plan entirely ourselves (except for the exact wall thicknesses and the arrangement of the windows). And I would say our floor plan is "not bad" (we find it almost perfect for us, and there were no (major) criticisms here in the forum either, even though it was just the first draft and still optimized a bit). We spent a long time working on the floor plan, and I also worked on this floor plan for weeks and months in Sweet Home 3D, refining it until it fit. We discarded many ideas, started anew, ran through all scenarios in our heads to find out whether this floor plan makes sense for us in everyday life - and not only now but also with children (we are still childless), etc. We have looked at what feels like a thousand floor plans of similar houses (town villas, approx. 160 m²) on the internet, visited show homes, and thus learned what matters and what is important and appealing to us. By viewing the sample floor plans and reading here in the forum for months, I learned what a sensible room layout looks like and what the no-go’s are. It’s a process and doesn’t happen overnight. With your floor plan - no offense - I can’t see that; there are several planning mistakes visible.

You can get much more out of a 200 m² house than this convoluted, impractical floor plan. If this floor plan is the best that came out of your long effort and you don’t know how to proceed, then you’d better look for a proper planner (be it a general contractor or a freelance architect) to do this for you. You don’t have to design the floor plan yourself! After all, you certainly want to live in the house for several decades, and you will have to invest a lot of money in this house - so you shouldn’t just build ANYHOW but try to get the maximum for yourselves. That should be in your interest.

I just briefly searched Google Images for town villas with approx. 200 m². For example, take a look at the “Stadtvilla 211 W” by the company Mittelstädt-Haus. The house is just a bit larger (210 m²) but has the rooms arranged roughly like in your self-designed floor plan. I’m not saying that this floor plan has to fit you exactly or that it is flawless, but it could serve as inspiration for what you could do better or how it can be done differently. For example, this sample floor plan lacks the shower on the ground floor and the storage room on the upper floor, but otherwise, everything you want is accommodated there. You can simply leave out the canopy and balcony. Child 1 would become your library then. Just a suggestion!
 

haydee

2016-11-10 10:22:52
  • #4
Turning radius wheelchair 1.5 m minimum Draw the 1.5m everywhere in your floor plan. It doesn’t work Door width 1 m otherwise there will be scraped hands, aching elbows, and scratched door frames.

Here are some hints on what to consider

Link removed by moderation: Google Nullbarriere!

It’s no use if the bathroom works but the rest of the ground floor doesn’t. For example, check the dimensions of the guest room if it is later intended as a bedroom for a wheelchair user. No door thresholds, no steps, sockets at light switch height, etc.

Here you can also clearly see the space requirements. Not every wheelchair user is able to operate their wheelchair themselves and an electric wheelchair requires more space overall because it is not quite as sensitive to operate

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Here you will find functioning bathroom floor plans

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although some of them are also very cramped once help is needed with personal hygiene.

I can’t say much about the rest of the floor plan; I don’t like it. Everything somehow seems too small.
 

ypg

2016-11-10 12:16:00
  • #5
Please refrain from linking - this contradicts forum rule 3.1 Regards
 

haydee

2016-11-10 13:20:13
  • #6
Oh ok thanks for the hint
 

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