Cooling with heat pump via underfloor heating?

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-23 11:50:35

Traumfaenger

2021-08-15 21:49:56
  • #1
Maybe the technology is more advanced than a few years ago. But I once had such an office and it ended with the ladies sitting under their desks in winter with an electric fan heater; the gentlemen were rather too proud ;-) In short: it didn’t work at all. The architectural firm was also sued because of these and other planning errors but then went bankrupt....
 

Myrna_Loy

2021-08-15 22:21:28
  • #2
80% RH is already clearly too high. Mold can occur from 60%, and from 70% mold is to be expected on most substrates. A single sensor also brings little, as different values can occur in the rooms. Air conditioners cause more trouble than benefit if you want to maintain a seasonally sliding RH corridor of 50-70%. Even the expensive ones.
 

konibar

2021-08-15 22:23:04
  • #3


perhaps technology has advanced, but the physics has remained the same:

1. there is no such thing as "cold radiation." If you feel that a spot in the room feels colder, it is at most the lack of heat reflection. But this would come from below here, which does not help but only causes cold feet.

2. a large-area heat source on the ceiling (in principle inversion) would have practically no radiant heat effect at the typically low supply temperatures of heat pumps. For this, the supply temperature would have to be well above 60°. That is why almost no one does it this way.

therefore, the top design principle is always: never fight against thermodynamics, but always support it. (which is why in traditional house construction radiators are always placed under the windowsills)
 

tomtom79

2021-08-15 22:30:00
  • #4
Search for rooms with heating cooling is from the Fraunhofer Institute.. The worst thing, however, is the electricity consumption of air conditioning units.
 

hanse987

2021-08-15 23:04:04
  • #5


Such a system may run at a maximum of 40°C, otherwise it will roast your head off.
 

Traumfaenger

2021-08-15 23:25:46
  • #6

Do you mean conventional air conditioners or the floor cooling with the underfloor heating?


That would also be my basic understanding, but I am not a physicist. From my own experience with such a ceiling heating, I still don’t understand why on the one hand people want to cool their floors and on the other want to heat the ceiling when heat rises from bottom to top.

I see two effective alternatives: endure the heat or work with a real air conditioner. It also dehumidifies the air, which underfloor heating cannot do. And when I make a pizza or something like that in the oven at 250 degrees despite the heat, or just cook (which is supposed to happen sometimes in summer, too), it still keeps the room nice and cool. A floor that is 2-3 degrees cooler doesn’t help me much in that case.
 

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