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2013-09-04 13:30:20
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Hello Goldi,
I’m stepping in for you a bit now, after you’ve come under fire from many sides.
First of all: I am basically NOT a fan of financing with repayment substitution (building society savings contract or life insurance).
With one exception:
If the life insurance (LV) already exists and this contract will be continued anyway. For example, because the contract is now tax-free and has a high guaranteed interest rate or because the contract has been used for years to cover part (or all) of the disability insurance (at the time of signing you were healthier, younger, etc.).
So if the LV will continue anyway – why not use it for repayment at the end? Even if the guaranteed interest rate is under discussion – so far only the guaranteed interest rate for NEW contracts has been touched. You are doing it right – you only calculate with the guaranteed sum (probably nothing more will come out ).
Personally, I don’t believe that the insurers will touch the contractually agreed guaranteed interest rate. Germany is the country where life insurance is the ultimate retirement provision. This would trigger a wave of lawsuits which would have the best chances before the Federal Court of Justice (BGH). Even now, numerous life insurance customers repeatedly go to court because they receive too low a surrender value upon cancellation. Insurers rarely risk a judgment (usually a settlement is reached), as this would become a precedent.
Moreover, no politician who wants to be re-elected in 4 years would risk facing the storm of protest.
Contacts for you would be financial advisors who also prepare somewhat more individually tailored contracts (so not Interhyp – At Interhyp only the standard variant is done by phone or internet) or your insurer.
You should, however, consider possibly choosing the following option: loan with 1% repayment
This way, you repay a small amount already, but are flexible enough to increase repayment at any time or also make a special repayment. This variant has a particular background (keyword assignment and collateral), which the advisor can explain to you better.
You have already recognized the problem with the repayment substitution variant yourself: you pay a fixed interest rate on the ENTIRE amount continuously. Thus, in the end you will definitely have a higher interest burden than with a normal annuity loan.
We plan part of our financing (approx. 15-20%) the same way.
I emphasize again: With an existing life insurance that is continued for personal reasons, I see a purpose. A new conclusion of an LV as repayment substitution is in my opinion irresponsible and only costs unnecessary liquidity.
One thing I do see as actually critical in your consideration:
A newly concluded retirement provision, if it is to be secure, will currently bring you zero point zero. With an LV, the guaranteed interest is only paid on the savings portion. Before that, the company’s costs go off, as well as the costs for coverage. And on top of that the currently historically low guaranteed interest rate.
Therefore, you must consider how to design your retirement provision sensibly (more profitably).
I’m stepping in for you a bit now, after you’ve come under fire from many sides.
First of all: I am basically NOT a fan of financing with repayment substitution (building society savings contract or life insurance).
With one exception:
If the life insurance (LV) already exists and this contract will be continued anyway. For example, because the contract is now tax-free and has a high guaranteed interest rate or because the contract has been used for years to cover part (or all) of the disability insurance (at the time of signing you were healthier, younger, etc.).
So if the LV will continue anyway – why not use it for repayment at the end? Even if the guaranteed interest rate is under discussion – so far only the guaranteed interest rate for NEW contracts has been touched. You are doing it right – you only calculate with the guaranteed sum (probably nothing more will come out ).
Personally, I don’t believe that the insurers will touch the contractually agreed guaranteed interest rate. Germany is the country where life insurance is the ultimate retirement provision. This would trigger a wave of lawsuits which would have the best chances before the Federal Court of Justice (BGH). Even now, numerous life insurance customers repeatedly go to court because they receive too low a surrender value upon cancellation. Insurers rarely risk a judgment (usually a settlement is reached), as this would become a precedent.
Moreover, no politician who wants to be re-elected in 4 years would risk facing the storm of protest.
Contacts for you would be financial advisors who also prepare somewhat more individually tailored contracts (so not Interhyp – At Interhyp only the standard variant is done by phone or internet) or your insurer.
You should, however, consider possibly choosing the following option: loan with 1% repayment
This way, you repay a small amount already, but are flexible enough to increase repayment at any time or also make a special repayment. This variant has a particular background (keyword assignment and collateral), which the advisor can explain to you better.
You have already recognized the problem with the repayment substitution variant yourself: you pay a fixed interest rate on the ENTIRE amount continuously. Thus, in the end you will definitely have a higher interest burden than with a normal annuity loan.
We plan part of our financing (approx. 15-20%) the same way.
I emphasize again: With an existing life insurance that is continued for personal reasons, I see a purpose. A new conclusion of an LV as repayment substitution is in my opinion irresponsible and only costs unnecessary liquidity.
One thing I do see as actually critical in your consideration:
A newly concluded retirement provision, if it is to be secure, will currently bring you zero point zero. With an LV, the guaranteed interest is only paid on the savings portion. Before that, the company’s costs go off, as well as the costs for coverage. And on top of that the currently historically low guaranteed interest rate.
Therefore, you must consider how to design your retirement provision sensibly (more profitably).