Construction Financing Options - Experiences / Recommendations

  • Erstellt am 2019-07-11 11:06:03

EliKarl

2019-07-11 13:49:18
  • #1


Sorry, we misunderstood each other. What I meant were 20 years of fixed interest but about 30 years term. More than 20 years fixed interest wasn’t possible at the banks we visited so far.



That already reassures me a lot. As I said, we have little documentation and the values are rather conservatively estimated, especially in the miscellaneous category. Especially in clothes, miscellaneous and vacation, we have rather estimated higher.

But I didn’t think I overestimated the additional house costs? Am I seeing that wrong? (House probably 175 sqm on 460 sqm plot, the multiplier for the property tax of the municipality is rather low)

Did you mean to say that it shouldn’t actually be a problem with the "smaller loan"?
 

Altai

2019-07-11 14:13:35
  • #2
The bank has its own household budget. It applies "its" values. What you really spend, e.g. whether the three of you spend 300€ per month on clothes... your business. When it comes to leasing, on the other hand, you probably are not responsible for car repairs?

How about visiting an intermediary? They enter your income, etc., and then you find out in passing whether the household budget adds up. For example, I have an expensive hobby, but nobody asked about that. Income, other debts or ongoing expenses (your leasing, for example), how many people, childcare, that was the focus.
I also find the interest rates offered quite high, you already have 30% equity now, so there can’t be 1.9%. A better offer will easily come up during the visit - you can probably choose the financing partner.
Whether you can manage your (upscale) habits with the installment and additional house costs in the end is something you have to know yourself.
 

EliKarl

2019-07-11 14:22:37
  • #3


And what do you think about option 2 with the smaller loan? Is that possible in my opinion?

As I said, we really don’t have many upscale habits. Probably just estimated too generously judging by your reactions to it.

Yes, with leasing there is always a maintenance contract included, in which no further costs arise from mounting and storing wheels after the season.
 

nordanney

2019-07-11 15:02:36
  • #4

Which additional costs do you mean? You have already listed electricity separately. Then there are still property tax, insurance and heating, garbage, water/sewage. Should be manageable - around 150-200€!?
Of course, you can start calculating reserves. But honestly, who actually does that and builds real reserves for the house? Especially since nothing should come up in the first 15 years with a new build anyway.


I consider that unproblematic. Every bank will be happy to have you as customers.
 

EliKarl

2019-07-11 15:14:23
  • #5


Thank you for your assessment. Basically, a bank actually has no risk with that, exaggeratedly speaking (60% equity ratio)? Or am I seeing that a bit naively?

For the additional costs, we had caught 3.24 - 4 € per sqm to be calculated monthly. Admittedly, as you said, telecommunications and electricity are included which we list separately. At 3€/sqm I still come to 510€ for 170 sqm?

Here is still the overview from Dr. Klein that I mean:
















































































Property tax 37.50 € 450 € public
Garbage fees 12.50 € 150 € public
Street cleaning 25 € 300 € public
Water (including sewage) 35 € 420 € public
Heating 162.50 € 1,950 € private
Heating maintenance 33 € 400 € private
Electricity 100 € 1,200 € public or private
Insurances 33.33 € 400 € private
Gas public or private
Telecommunications 30 € 360 € private
Chimney sweep 6.66 € 80 € private
Total 485.49 € 5,830 € -
Cost per m² 3.24 € 38.86 €


P.S. And I have already seen that the heating costs in the example are probably a bit overestimated if you aim to use a heat pump system.
 

Joedreck

2019-07-11 15:57:40
  • #6
Yes, that is far too high. In my old building, I spend about €100/month on gas. A heat pump also does not require such expensive maintenance, and the chimney sweep is unnecessary as long as you don't have a fireplace.

You can simply try out insurances at Check24 for a realistic overview.
 

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