Building savings - does it make sense? If yes, what amount?

  • Erstellt am 2022-07-07 13:41:05

WilderSueden

2022-07-08 11:13:20
  • #1

The problem with this option is that you practically earn no interest on the money in the building savings contract during the saving phase. Using the money as a special repayment at 3-4% interest has a significantly bigger effect (namely those 3-4% guaranteed interest savings per year). I have calculated this here as well as Hyponex. Despite low interest rates for the building savings loan, interest rates would have to rise extremely for this to be useful:
 

chand1986

2022-07-08 13:33:40
  • #2
Exactly. Meanwhile, I have caught up with my own calculation. Actually, securing the interest rate makes more sense the lower the interest on the annuity is. The more you already pay there, the more special repayments bring instead of investing in the building savings contract.
 

Gelbwoschdd

2022-07-08 14:46:29
  • #3
I would also never insure the entire remaining debt. We only took out two building savings contracts in 2010 when we still didn’t know that we wanted to build and we are now incorporating them into the financing. They are also only 2 small ones. One for over 20K and one for over 40K, among other things to take advantage of the employer’s savings allowance. At €26.60 employer contribution, that is €4700 for one contract by 2025 without compound interest effect. That at least significantly exceeds the fees. Of course, one would not have done worse with ETFs, but back then I wasn’t familiar with them and now I still find it quite elegant with the building savings contracts. Depending on the current interest rate, you could also let them continue running or not and use them later for a renovation, a pool, or something else. It’s not always necessarily bad.
 

WilderSueden

2022-07-08 14:59:26
  • #4
Whether you want to secure partial amounts or the remainder, the math for the partial amount comes out the same. Currently, you practically get no interest for the [Bausparer] but pay 3-4% on the main loan that you could otherwise repay with the money. So you are running a negative interest differential business over years, and the necessary market interest rate for you to make that up in the follow-up financing simply has to be too high.

Old contracts are different. In 2010, you probably still got quite decent interest rates, and I also still have a [Bausparer] from 2013 with 3% that I, of course, have not liquidated but simply continue saving. By the follow-up financing in 2031, it will be almost fully funded, and then I will repay part of the remaining debt with the money.
 

Gelbwoschdd

2022-07-08 15:06:25
  • #5

Well, good interest rates were not really available then either. Only 1%.

The math is the same, that's clear, but with smaller amounts, the share of the fee for the capital-forming benefits (VWL) is smaller and thus somewhat more profitable. Also, it does not take as long until it matures for allocation, and you only have to save small sums. In our case, €100 in addition to the VWL.
 

WilderSueden

2022-07-08 15:24:18
  • #6
1% doesn't sound like much but it's already 10 times the usual rate today and reduces the interest difference by at least one third. That makes a big difference in the long run.
Also, not everyone gets [VWL] ;)

edit:
To not drag the discussion out... we're talking about two completely different scenarios here. You have 1% interest and also [VWL] which you otherwise assume as 0 (probably not quite right, but whatever). That makes it much more likely that your building savings contract underbids the market interest rate.
But the OP is asking if they should sign a building savings contract now. And since there's nothing about [VWL], we're not including that in the calculations.
 

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