Boundary to the neighbor with garage built over by approximately 1-2 cm

  • Erstellt am 2020-03-22 18:17:48

Mbk84

2020-03-22 19:50:15
  • #1
Wow, thank you very much for the quick replies!!!



I measured it myself with a folding rule and a right angle, as precisely as possible. The problem is that the boundary stone is at the front of the property and of course not where the garage will later be. That means I tried to extend the line from the boundary stone in front to the garage. But even then I still don’t know 100% exactly where the boundary runs... Here is a (not to scale) sketch to illustrate it.



And without being able to measure it exactly, it’s also hard to accuse the contractor of not fitting it (he claims he has kept all distances). Nor can I prove to the neighbor that I have not encroached. My fear is simply that once the garage is standing and the neighbor eventually builds something themselves, there will be considerable trouble.

Of course, I will seek a conversation with the neighbor, but before that I would like to be somewhat prepared. In the worst case, can he still demand the garage be removed even years later? Or can you somehow "buy your freedom" (built-over sqm x standard land value x e.g. 100% surcharge or something like that)?



That’s exactly my fear as well. I would feel more comfortable if we rather left a 4-5cm safety distance and not the other way around.
 

Escroda

2020-03-22 20:14:54
  • #2

Right. Even if you had a highly precise measuring device – in mechanical engineering, tachymeters are used in the submillimeter range – and were familiar with geodetic measuring methods, the true boundary line would remain unclear because you don’t know if the boundary markers are still correctly placed on site. And as mentioned, the position of the boundary markers can’t be determined more accurately than about 2 cm.

You don’t have to. He has to prove that you have built over the boundary.

Because of 2 cm? No expert in their right mind would derive a boundary violation from that.

I wouldn’t.

No.

Yes. If things go really badly, your neighbor has too much time and money, a surveyor delivers a thoughtless documentation of the building survey, and a clueless judge unreflectively accepts the 2 cm as given, you have to pay an overbuilding compensation according to §913 of the Building Code. But you could then sell that story to a private broadcaster.

Is the residential house already standing? Then have a surveyor come, preferably a publicly appointed surveyor engineer. They will document the exact boundary distance, and then you order the prefabricated garage. Shouldn’t cost more than €300 (ask beforehand). If something does go wrong, you have someone liable.
 

hampshire

2020-03-22 23:09:24
  • #3
You are currently basing your assumptions on your own measurements, whose tolerance alone is greater than the potential encroachment you determined, due to the boundary stone tolerance. Too much, would be, could be. I wouldn't make a fuss about that.
 

M4rvin

2020-03-23 06:35:23
  • #4
Since it also fits well, a quick side question. It is similar for us, but we haven’t planned a garage. Our house was supposed to be 3.5m from the boundary line; I have now also extended the line of the boundary stones with a guideline. Not exactly precise, due to elevation rise and slope, but I only get 3.15m. What do you do if 35cm are missing? We actually wanted to park the cars there and have a bicycle/tool shed behind it. However, it seems quite tight to get past the car there.
 

HilfeHilfe

2020-03-23 06:43:46
  • #5


how far are you allowed to be?

35 cm is already a whole different league
 

Escroda

2020-03-23 07:31:48
  • #6

I thought so.

Show some photos of the boundary stones, preferably with a horizontally aligned camera and reference points (curb edge, street, vertical fence post, or similar) and your construction. Can you do a control measurement on the other side of the building?

Take the foreman or surveyor by the a... if it's firmly confirmed. As long as distances and building envelopes still fit, at least there won’t be trouble with the authorities. It’s probably very difficult to quantify an actual damage. Who did the building staking?
 

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