Basement planning prefab house - outsource? What to consider?

  • Erstellt am 2020-04-07 13:15:05

kaho674

2020-04-09 10:30:58
  • #1
Your wishes regarding freedom in planning with minimal organizational effort would probably be best met by a general contractor from the region. Nevertheless, I advise you to consider everything on the construction site that you pay for as your business, as long as your name is not Rockefeller.
 

exto1791

2020-04-09 10:32:26
  • #2


Definitely, that wasn’t what I meant. Ideally, I would like to schedule, plan, and independently tender everything myself. However, that will never work because of my job. The time required would simply be too great.

But yes, I do think that a regional construction company is indeed the right point of contact.
 

AxelH.

2020-04-09 11:31:21
  • #3
Perhaps as an addition: Good values in the energy certificate can also be achieved with solid construction:
 

11ant

2020-04-09 13:48:30
  • #4
The general contractors basically all work the same, whether they call themselves "prefabricated house manufacturers" with timber frame panel walls or "building contractors" with stone upon stone construction; as a third way, there are also the stone panel wall "solid prefabricated house manufacturers." The building material makes no difference, not even the price: the same standard costs the same money. Surcharges also do not vary with the wall construction method; the only correlation is: "the cheaper the bait list price, the more exorbitant the smallest change."

However, there is a significant difference between "prefabricated house manufacturers" and solid construction GCs: those who want to decide trade by trade what they take out as their own work can practically only be happy with the solid construction GC – the prefabricated house manufacturers usually only know four to five levels from shell construction to fully finished standard; some even have only two levels: a separate brand for shell construction, and the fully finished house is only available with 100% of all trades. Then you can only outsource what goes beyond 100% (pergola, garage). Although you can also deselect included services, this is only possible against ridiculously symbolic compensations.

You have to be clear that money is made with those customers who order the Jägerschnitzel exactly as on the menu – WITHOUT changing the fries to croquettes or similar fuss.

Incidentally, the costs of a freelance architect are massively overestimated. I advise you: choose a basic design Franziska 138 or Nadine 141 from a regional provider and have yourself advised here in the forum on how to adapt it minimally invasively to your needs. Then go to a freelance architect and commission them to fit it into the plot, combine it with a waterproof finished basement, apply for building permission in collaboration with the GC, commission the GC with the "shell plus," and lead the whole show (starting with execution drawings for the surely fitting interface OKKD). For all trades transferred to the GC, refrain from as many standard changes as possible.

KfW40 is a halo for bio-label fans. You only really "need" it if it is important for you to belong to the eco-avant-garde and be overlooked at barbecue invitations as an elite vegan. If that were really profitable, it would - at least in multi-family residential construction - long have been general developer standard.
 

exto1791

2020-04-09 14:06:23
  • #5
Okay, that already sums up a lot...

Then a regional general contractor in solid construction would suit us best.. I think we would just have a better feeling about that!
 

exto1791

2020-04-09 14:38:20
  • #6
But if I really don't want to do much myself, actually only the stage of finishing to painting-ready, does the regional solid construction company still have a great advantage or does it still differ because of that?

Transparency is very, very important to me personally. I want to know what's going on, I also want to be able to say: Your windows are crap, I'll get them myself from a specialist shop and have them installed. Is that also considered a self-performed service?

It seems to me that prefab houses don't really give insight into what they sell. I am often forced to do everything the way they tell me. I want the provider to be close to the process, to give me freedom and allow flexibility.

I hope you know what I mean... I find it hard to trust what they tell me. It feels like I'm just a number and then everything, but everything around it and any personal influence I can't bring in at all. I just go to the sample center, pick out the things, and that's it.

In short: I can't build trust here.. The proximity to the project is simply missing. The architect doesn't even once set foot on the site to see what's going on.. It somehow isn't a holistic project. It's somehow for people who don't want to deal with anything and say: Just do it.. Isn't that so? I somehow find it very, very difficult. Everyone tells me some other nonsense and praises the advantages of their product. Like with a car, obviously.. Also completely understandable, but it's somehow completely different when I go to the local builder around the corner.

I suspect that the whole thing runs much more personally with the regional builder and that every wish can be beautifully accommodated...

Here in BaWü, especially in our area, there are really good construction companies that also altogether make up about 80% of the buildings in the surrounding new development areas.
 

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