Work on basement ceiling insulation with stone wool

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dertill

2023-01-14 23:57:08
  • #1
The same applies on a concrete ceiling from above as on the basement ceiling from above. Insulation material does not matter, vapor barrier foil is not necessary. For wooden beams and drywall ceilings, a vapor barrier should generally be used on the room side. With diffusion-resistant insulation materials like PIR (whether with or without aluminum does not matter), it can be omitted. The important thing here is airtightness. Drywall without any foil usually is not airtight, so I would recommend an airtight foil on the room side / inside in front of the insulation regardless of the insulation material. For simplicity, then use a vapor retarder.
 

Alibert87

2023-01-15 08:03:03
  • #2

I'm a bit confused, so for me the conclusion is: the house is solidly built with a concrete ceiling:
for the basement ceiling and upper floor ceiling, I do not need a vapor barrier foil under the insulation in my case, right?
 

WilderSueden

2023-01-15 11:03:03
  • #3
Yes, exactly. Concrete is (quasi) impermeable, so you don't need a vapor barrier if you insulate on the cold side.
 

dertill

2023-01-16 07:34:57
  • #4


WilderSüden has already said that with

I just wanted to clarify:

Is of course nonsense. Correct:
The same applies from above to a concrete ceiling as with the basement ceiling from BELOW, that is on the cold side. Concrete is virtually vapor-tight. What is important here as well is just the airtight connection, if penetrations are present. You should also insulate the chimney flue and other massive thermal bridges about 1m high to reduce the thermal bridge effect.
 

Alibert87

2023-02-24 12:08:23
  • #5


Thank you.
I have received a good offer for 100mm PUR insulation boards, "unfortunately" aluminum-coated on both sides. Is it best to attach them to the basement ceiling with washer screws, or do you have a better / cheaper idea? Insulation anchors?
 

dertill

2023-02-27 08:58:06
  • #6
8 mm / 155 mm insulation anchors made of plastic. Plate screws are nice thermal bridges, more expensive, and you still need an anchor separately. Press the panel against the ceiling with a ceiling/support bracket, drill through and push through. If the substrate is flat, that's enough. Otherwise, additionally apply PUR insulation adhesive to close gaps under the panel – you can also use it for corners that are too small, or if you only need to fill small corners where an anchor doesn't make sense.
 

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