Work on basement ceiling insulation with stone wool

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-08 10:16:40

Alibert87

2023-01-06 14:20:52
  • #1

May I ask again:
I can get a leftover Iko enertherm f4 (flat roof insulation) 100mm thick from an acquaintance.
Can I also use this for the basement ceiling and the upper floor ceiling?
Thank you!
 

Tolentino

2023-01-06 14:27:04
  • #2
Well, I'm not an expert, but I don't see why not. Maybe can add something to that?
 

dertill

2023-01-09 08:40:55
  • #3

You can use any insulation material on the underside of a concrete basement ceiling. Vapor permeability does not matter since the concrete ceiling is practically 100% vapor-tight. UV stability does not matter, compressive strength and fire protection only in garages. Therefore: yes.
If it is aluminum foil faced, I would recommend doweling, otherwise the whole stuff might not hold.
 

Alibert87

2023-01-09 12:12:19
  • #4


okay, thanks. Is the WLG of about 022 the same for every PU/PIR insulation thickness? According to my research, I came to that conclusion, which would be unusual. Because the optimal would be max. 8cm and for gluing (so not double aluminum foil laminated)
 

dertill

2023-01-09 14:55:18
  • #5
The PIR without aluminum lamination has "only" WLS 025-027, since the aluminum as a radiation reflector is missing. When mounted on the ceiling and glued with PU insulation adhesive, of course the thermal bridges caused by the dowels are eliminated. From that perspective, at the end of the day it might not make much difference. The PIR with double-sided aluminum lamination is always specified with WLS022. Without lamination, the WLS decreases with increasing insulation thickness, so that in total it probably always results in 022. Why, I do not know.
 

Alibert87

2023-01-13 20:10:43
  • #6


Sorry to bother you, but can I omit the vapor barrier / seal when insulating the upper floor ceiling with the aluminum-faced variant?
 

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