Underfloor heating: should it be installed wet or dry?

  • Erstellt am 2016-03-17 20:38:20

Bieber0815

2016-10-26 11:32:11
  • #1
We have a cement screed (purchased from the developer). Nothing was coordinated, nor did "experts" (no surveyor) criticize the plans or the construction and service description in advance. And now?
 

KlaRa

2016-10-26 11:52:13
  • #2
From the questioner "Tu Hus" came on the date 17.03.2016 a factual question, which was answered more or less factually by several people. It should suffice to state that in the case of contractual arrangements with a general contractor (GU), the client cannot be responsible for the detailed planning (here: underfloor heating and screed work). Especially not if the client acts as a technical layperson in the construction industry. In this respect, the wishes for a warm water underfloor heating system with a wet screed must be presented to the GU, who will then award a corresponding partial contract to a screed contractor, who usually works jointly with an installation company for heating technology. Therefore, no further answers are required for fictitious issues, and especially no answers to unobjective statements. (Quote) If he says so: Take to your heels and get away! Make sure not to leave a signature anywhere beforehand! Everything that needed to be factually remarked on the requested topic has already been explained, so unnecessary repetitions can be avoided even in the future. --------------------------------------- KlaRa
 

Bieber0815

2016-10-26 12:25:55
  • #3
At first, I didn’t understand what you wanted to say with your post, then I looked for the quote. Oh, from me! I would like to point out that you did not include the context. Initially, it was the transmitted statement of a seller "Drywall construction .... everything else is botched" (see #12). Well, and if a seller says it like that, I consider him untrustworthy and would (taking the overall situation into account) leave. I definitely expressed that bluntly, but not unprofessionally (see #13).

Nevertheless, of course, it’s okay if you don’t want to answer my question in #26.
 

Kaspatoo

2016-10-26 16:51:33
  • #4
this topic had its last comments in March, then I wrote something about it again because I did not quite understand the dry construction method (according to my ideas type B).
You then wrote something, but you refer to the old comments.

I think my question is very much related to the topic, since it is about the advantages of wet or dry installation of the "underfloor heating" (at least that is what the title of the topic says).

I will summarize again what I !believe so far:

- you can install underfloor heating wet or dry
- dry means that the heating pipes are NOT surrounded by the (still wet when laying) screed, wet installation is the other way around
- there seem to be different options for dry installation
- e.g. laying dry screed prefabricated panels
- covering the heating pipes with a separating layer, e.g. thin sheets, which can also function as heat conducting plates, whereby wet screed is poured afterwards again, but since the pipes remain dry because of the sheet, it is still called dry installation even if flow or cement screed is used
- the heating pipes can be embedded in the upper side of the insulation layer
- alternatively, the pipes can also be embedded in a kind of granulate

The absolutely classic installation method, especially in new buildings, seems to be wet installation.
Now my father-in-law keeps pestering me on this topic and raves about his dry installation and how the heat now distributes much better than with the previous wet-installed underfloor heating. My wife confirms this by saying that as a child, when she played on the tiles, she always looked for a warm tile.
I could now imagine that either the materials used earlier were not so great or the installation distances were too large.
Besides, he had a big crack through the screed back then, which my father-in-law believes to prevent by no longer laying heating pipes in the screed so that the screed can no longer settle unevenly.

Therefore, I am now trying to learn again about the advantages and disadvantages in this already existing thread with almost the same topic as I see it.

Manufacturers of underfloor heating (e.g. ArteTherm) sell both variants. For the dry systems, a frequently cited argument is that the heat is better distributed by the heat conducting plates.
-> Is that true, or is it exclusively a matter of the laying distances?

It is also emphasized that the trades heating and screed are separated from each other.
-> Does this lead to fewer cracks or are cracks in the screed nowadays no longer an issue or if they are, do they have nothing to do with the wet installation of the underfloor heating?

A disadvantage seems to be that dry systems are somewhat more expensive than wet systems.

Are there other points that I am overlooking here?
 

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