Support in finding a personal pain threshold

  • Erstellt am 2016-10-26 10:15:56

ypg

2016-10-26 12:37:36
  • #1


Well, if you mention that you absolutely want a basement, for example for a children's playroom, office, or guest room, then the living area in the basement is set. The basement then does not serve as storage space, but as developed living space - you then have about 250 sqm of living and usable space plus garage. That is a big number, not everyone has that. Everyone should reconsider the need for an expensive basement, an additional room, or a meter of house extension :)
 

MrArmageddon

2016-10-26 13:46:42
  • #2
Yes, I agree with you! On paper, 250 sqm really sounds like a lot :-) Maybe my girlfriend and I should reconsider whether we really need 160 sqm of living space in addition to a basement?! We mainly want to use the basement for washing (laundry room with plenty of space for drying clothes), as a storage area for rarely used stuff, for storage of supplies, and to house all the building technology (heating, electricity, network, etc.). My girlfriend and I (both from the countryside) are used to having this kind of stuff in the basement. Therefore, at the moment, we see the basement as necessary... Thank you very much for your help! :-)
 

Evolith

2016-10-26 13:57:04
  • #3
Crazy price! We are building a 162sqm bungalow (so a large foundation slab and large roof, which costs extra) for just over €200,000 (heat pump, ventilation system, underfloor heating) without a basement. So you should be able to reach around €300,000 for a relatively classic single-family house with a basement, right? With 160sqm you could also consider leaving out the basement and planning a spacious utility room and stuffing the rest into the attic. Also think about whether you really need the garage now or if it’s enough to build it later. Does it have to be masonry or are alternative systems okay? For example, we have a foamed steel garage (don’t know the technical term for it) with an attached carport and we pay €10,000.
 

ypg

2016-10-26 14:07:27
  • #4


Not just on paper – most people afford 160sqm including storage and technical rooms for a planned 4 people with roughly the same repayment rate...


The extra cost of a basement just for storage or utility room/freezer is not worth it and overpriced. It’s time to rethink things a bit, especially for young future builders ;). Well-planned storage space, a utility room upstairs where the laundry piles up, and a technical room on the ground floor offering space for supplies, cleaning agents, etc. is perfectly sufficient. There are plenty of discussions here about that, or it comes up in every floor plan discussion.



You’re not building for the generation before you, and therefore you will certainly critically examine some things from your parents or grandparents and do them differently. That also applies to house construction. My grandparents had the basement for coal storage, and there was a hatch where the coal was poured in from outside. That’s why I certainly won’t want to build a coal cellar ;)

Your parents also didn’t install the technology you will be installing now – so sometimes you have to let go of the old ways :)
 

Bauexperte

2016-10-26 14:14:33
  • #5
Hello,

are you sure that you told your architect that you and your girlfriend want a usable basement?


Single-family house according to the energy saving ordinance: TEUR 225
Usable basement: TEUR 50
Controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery: TEUR 13
Prefabricated garage 6.00 x 6.00 m: TEUR 12
Painting/floor covering work included: TEUR 20
Reserves for extras: TEUR 10
Additional construction costs: TEUR 30
Outdoor facilities included: TEUR 10 (only the essentials)

All in estimated: TEUR 370 +/- TEUR 10 (construction surcharge 3rd gable)


So as a future junk room with the tech alibi :D

Edit: Addition prefabricated garage; I had overlooked that.

Rhenish greetings
 

Bieber0815

2016-10-26 15:02:25
  • #6
But that does not make the garage any cheaper, one should keep that in mind.

What in my opinion always gets too little attention is drying the laundry. And as country folks, they possibly have higher requirements for storage and stockpiling (which of course can be done differently, I know, also depends on the size of the plot). By the way, we do not have a basement, for cost reasons ;-).
 

Similar topics
28.01.2013House construction costs single-family house from 180 sqm11
09.04.2013New single-family house including carport and garage - realistic cost estimate?11
08.04.2015Install a technical room in the garage? Is this possible?35
26.10.2013Solid house-single family house 142 m² living space, questions about floor plans/building costs27
18.10.2013Cost estimate single-family house Munich 200 sqm12
21.05.2014Tips and ideas for the floor plan of a 136 sqm single-family house11
05.11.2016Plan for building a single-family house, sticking point living basement, dream or nightmare41
23.05.2017Technology / utility room on the upper floor, opinions?27
22.07.2017Classic single-family house with gable roof ~130 sqm18
22.12.2017Construction costs for a single-family house with a basement in NRW84
08.02.2018Is the utility room sufficient as a storage room as well?22
02.11.2018Single-family house with a granny flat - ideas wanted11
24.01.2020Is basement area more expensive than living area?58
01.07.2020Calculation for a single-family house with 175m² living area, basement, and double garage79
11.11.2020Our life project: Single-family house with 800 m² living space85
18.05.2022Minimum floor area - utility room and AZ on the ground floor - without basement19
21.04.2022Basement living versus more living space on the ground floor64
20.05.2022Utility room on the upper floor - problems with noise?27
08.03.2023Floor plan of a single-family house with approximately 150 sqm on a rear lot128
20.03.2025Floor plan 200m² single-family house, raised ground floor, existing plot, double garage88

Oben