Statics - house with basement due to insulation, shifting Poroton bricks

  • Erstellt am 2023-09-24 19:40:03

Spiderman1982

2023-09-24 19:40:03
  • #1
During the construction phase, we noticed that the insulation of the basement is a bit too weak. Originally, 6cm perimeter insulation was planned on the outside, and now we want to go with 8cm insulation with a better WLG. The general contractor wants to shift the 36.5cm Poroton bricks 2cm outward for this.

I am a bit worried about the statics because the load will be transferred over a smaller area.

However, the construction manager and site supervisor said that it can be done.

What do you think?

Can you maybe say something about this as well?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Here is a picture again so you know what I mean. The basement walls are made of 30cm concrete C25/30.
 

WilderSueden

2023-09-24 19:55:24
  • #2
What overlap do you then still have from the concrete wall to the first row of stones? 28.5cm plus or minus the accuracy of the mason?
 

Spiderman1982

2023-09-24 20:05:14
  • #3


Since the basement exterior wall is 30cm, I assume 28cm, plus or minus the accuracy of the mason. Construction is done with Poroton T9 36.5.
 

11ant

2023-09-24 21:45:07
  • #4

The general contractor wants to build the house 4cm longer and wider than approved? - I can already hear the chorus of my loyal readers thinking what I have to say about that.

It seems to me you are making naive connections here, and I don’t know the details of the base.

The signal phrase for my diagnosis "brain switched on too late" is right there in the introduction: "during the construction phase, we noticed" (wrong timing, you realize that yourself, right?). What exactly did you notice there: that the basement is now to be used differently, or why is the insulation of its exterior walls suddenly no longer appropriate as calculated?
I decidedly lack knowledge of your construction project to be able to elaborate here in a well-founded way. As far as I can follow your fragmentary descriptions, we are apparently talking here about a utility basement and a house with monolithic walls, caliber 365, on top of it. So far, so good. The basement is now to receive, with the basement shell unchanged, among other things, thicker insulation on its outside walls, 2cm thicker. This creates a delta regarding the "matching" exterior walls of the ground floor, naive calculation understood so far. If the ground floor is still being built according to the change in imaginary dimensions, the botched job pocket problem "the same in green" will remain—so far, so already different from good. Legally, even more than technically, different house dimensions are to be created here??? - Technically, as said, without project knowledge hardly any meaningful comment is possible.
 

Spiderman1982

2023-09-24 22:38:04
  • #5


The basement was planned as a living basement. Usage class A and design principle A. Only the insulation was quite weak at 6cm WLG 035.

Yes, different house dimensions arise here. We have at least 0.5m space to the building boundary on all sides of the house. It is a development area with a zoning plan.

The question is what to do?

6cm insulation WLG 028 with U-value approx. 0.4 (then we build the house as originally planned) or 8cm insulation WLG 028 with U-value approx. 0.3 and move bricks.
 

11ant

2023-09-24 23:16:28
  • #6
A house built differently than approved is an illegal construction, even if the building envelope still has some space. The consequences, of course, have a different degree of severity. I thought I had clearly written that: To those whose qualified opinion you seek, present the basics. We neither know your house design in general, nor, even less so, the plinth details. Thus, even with the greatest goodwill, your question cannot be answered.
 

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