Ring beam - Insulation for 5cm U-shaped shell

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-22 21:04:04

dertill

2023-05-30 16:00:19
  • #1


There were / are different construction methods.
Either double-shell with insulation in between. Then no lightweight concrete was used, but rather an insulation layer in between, or lightweight concrete inside and another layer of concrete panels outside for protection against rain / snow.
Massive concrete / reinforced concrete as a sole wall was only used in bunkers. There, however, the wall essentially does not serve thermal insulation - except against extreme heat.
 

Gregor_K

2023-05-31 08:54:36
  • #2


I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean I should simply go for 8 cm insulation in WLG 035?
 

In der Ruine

2023-05-31 09:02:45
  • #3
You are surprisingly right. I just googled and found a schematic structure.
 

dertill

2023-05-31 09:08:13
  • #4


Exactly the other way around.
The statics of the house were calculated with the existing ring beam. If you now go from 5 cm insulation to 8 cm, something is lost. Either part of the Poroton bricks (which would have only a minor influence on the U-value of the wall at this point) or the ring beam becomes 3 cm narrower. The latter would have a greater effect energetically, but also statically.

Therefore, if desired, I would rather switch from XPS with WLG 035 to Resol with WLG 022. This would not require any change to the Poroton bricks and the statics concerning the ring beam would also remain unaffected.

U-value = 1/(1/Lambda * d)
XPS 5 cm: 1/(1/0.035 * 0.05m) = 0.7 W/m²K
XPS 8 cm: 1/(1/0.035 * 0.08m) = 0.44 W/m²K

Resol 5 cm: 1/(1/0.22 * 0.05m) = 0.44 W/m²K
Resol 8 cm: 1/(1/0.22 * 0.05m) = 0.28 W/m²K

In addition, there is the thermal resistance of the Poroton bricks, plus surcharges for internal and external heat transfer, so with the 5 cm Resol variant you end up at about 0.25 - 0.3 as the U-value at this point, and with 8 cm you probably get a bit lower.
However, 0.05 W/m²K on an area of maybe 10m² has no noticeable impact on the overall heating demand of the house.
 

Gregor_K

2023-05-31 17:47:51
  • #5


That’s exactly how we’re going to do it now! So just simply increase the insulation to Resol with 5 cm thickness from WLG 035 to WLG 022. Many thanks!
 

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