Single-family house on a north plot

Hello everyone,

I finally managed to finish drawing the floor plan and am hoping for opinions and tips.

Thank you in advance and best regards
Nadine

Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 498 sqm
Slope no
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio three stories, whereby the 3rd full story must be in the attic
Building window, building line and boundary 3.0 meters
Edge development yes garage
Number of parking spaces not regulated
Number of floors three
Roof shape pitched roofs between 9° and 45°
Architectural style open construction
Orientation north
Maximum heights/limits ridge height 9.50 m
further specifications

Client requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type single-family house with gable roof
Basement, floors basement, two full floors
Number of people, ages 4 people (38; 32; 2.5; 7 months)
Room requirements on ground floor, upper floor
Office: family use or home office? family use and home office
Overnight guests per year 2-3
Open or closed architecture closed except for living area
Conservative or modern construction conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island yes cooking island
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace yes
Music/stereo wall no but TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes 1.5-car garage
Utility garden, greenhouse utility garden
further wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included

- laundry chute
- equally sized children’s rooms

House design
Who planned it:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you especially like? Why? Large living area because we spend most time there
What do you not like? Why?? Orientation of the dining room because it will probably be too hot in the south
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment: €450,000
Preferred heating technology: gas

If you have to do without, which details/extensions
-can you do without: we have already done without a bay window that we actually wanted, otherwise we could do without the stair shape and the niches in the hallway and kitchen for closets
-can’t you do without: equally sized children’s rooms, shower on the ground floor

Why did the design turn out as it is now?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think is particularly good or bad about it? Good is that both children’s rooms face south. Bad is the narrow hallway and possibly the orientation of the dining room

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?

Can the floor plan be realized like this, i.e. can you get through everywhere in practice? Are there things that won’t work as drawn?

Can the floor plan be implemented as is, so that you can get through everywhere in practice? Are there things that do not work as drawn?

Hm... to understand your drawings, you have to go through your profile to another thread to then find that there is a site plan discussion there. But not everyone will jump into other threads multiple times here. It would therefore be advantageous to post the site plan here, if available with text and legend. Because if you write here that it is supposed to be a three-story building, then of course I am looking here and now for the third floor. And where is your building services? Where are the connections? If the cellar is planned, please at least include it roughly here. Regarding your question: Kitchen far too narrow to place a stove in the middle. The stove needs counter space for safety reasons. The way to the pantry is absolutely counterproductive. We are currently discussing a similarly intricate house here yesterday and today. Something like that doesn't work in everyday life. Without measurements, unfortunately, not much else can be said. But a lot will not fit. 8.28... 3 meters to the guest room, 1 meter stairway, 60 (cm) cloakroom, 130 (cm) hallway, 30 (cm) for walls... 6.20... a shameful 2 meters remain for a kitchen. Toilet on the upper floor is drained in front of the guest room window. Just briefly mentioned. The alignments are about right. But I think that a lot of shifting and compromises will be necessary.

I find some basic ideas in the concept and I like them, especially the very generous children's rooms facing the sunny side. I don't find the drainage over and next to the guest room problematic; a guest just has to be able to put up with that. If there is work and a lot of communication in this room, of course, it can become annoying. By the time you have carried groceries into the pantry, you have walked quite a distance. The location itself in the south is certainly no longer a big problem with today's insulation. A pass-through to the hallway and a generous shelf space behind would be a solution. You come in, put the groceries through the pass-through onto the shelf and can then walk around to put the groceries away. If the window is floor-to-ceiling, drink crates can also find their way into the house that way. I did not notice a laundry chute in the drawing. The upstairs hallway is very narrow – but somehow you have to get the furniture through it. I would measure what is minimally needed. I can also imagine that an upper window on the east side lets in good light. The kitchen can work like this, but the cooktop definitely needs a different position. I don't find it as "non-functional" as , but I admit she has far more experience and competence for practical matters and more consideration of the budget. For me, it’s always "think sideways and act straight," which often results in unconventional and expensive detailed solutions.

Hm... to understand your drawings, one has to go from your profile to another thread and then find out that there is a site plan discussion there. But not everyone will jump back and forth between threads multiple times.
So it would be advantageous to post the site plan here, if available, with text and legend.
Because if you write here that there should be three stories, then naturally I am looking here and now for the third floor.
And where is your building services? Where are the connections? If the basement is planned, then please at least roughly include it here.
Regarding your question:
Kitchen is way too narrow to place a stove in the middle. A stove needs counter space for safety reasons. The path to the pantry is absolutely counterproductive.
Yesterday and today, we have a similarly ornate house under discussion. Such a thing doesn't work in everyday life.
Unfortunately, without dimensions, one can't say much else.
But a lot won't fit here. 8.28... 3 meters for the guest room, 1 meter stairs, 60 [cm] cloakroom, 130 hallway, 30 for walls... 6.20... leaving a shameful 2 meters for a kitchen.
Toilet on the upper floor drains in front of the guest room window.
Just a brief summary.
The orientations roughly add up.
But I think you will have to move a lot around and make compromises.

Thank you for your answer. Sorry, I thought it would be easier for you if I open a new post so that you don't have to find a floor plan on page 6 of the old post. I also don't know how to edit my post here otherwise I would add the site plan etc. at the top.

So we want 2 full stories and a basement. I only wrote about 3 stories because the questionnaire asked what the development plan allows. We have now changed the lower bathroom again. Having to walk a bit into the pantry with the groceries doesn't bother us. It is more important to us that we can get quickly from the kitchen to the pantry. Too bad about the cooking island, it's really annoying because it is so important to me. I have now drawn in smaller cabinets with 60 cm. Still bad? On the plan it doesn't look that tight at all.

The dimensions are now included too. I hope you can do more with the plan now. We have quickly added the basement as well, so it's not optimal right now.

I find some basic ideas in the concept that I recognize and like, especially the very generous children's rooms facing the sunny side. I don't find the drainage over and next to the guest room problematic; a guest just has to be able to put up with it. Of course, if someone works and communicates a lot in that room, it can become annoying. By the time you've carried groceries into the pantry, you've walked a long way. The location itself in the south is certainly no longer much of a problem with today's insulation. A pass-through to the corridor and a generous shelf space behind it would be a solution. You enter, put the groceries through the pass-through onto the shelf, and can then walk around to sort the groceries. If the window is floor-to-ceiling, beverage crates can also find their way into the house through it. I didn't notice a laundry chute in the drawing. The upstairs corridor is very narrow – but the furniture somehow has to get through there. I would measure what is needed at a minimum. I can also imagine that an upper window on the east side lets in good light. The kitchen can work like this, but the cooktop definitely needs to be repositioned. I don't find it as "dysfunctional" as , but I admit she has far more experience and competence in practical matters and more consideration for the budget. For me, it's always "think laterally and act straightforwardly," which often results in idiosyncratic and expensive detailed solutions.

Thank you very much for your reply. You can't find the laundry chute because it is not drawn in since we don't know where to put it...

We hadn't thought about the narrow corridor upstairs because of the furniture, thanks, we need to make it bigger. How wide does the corridor need to be at minimum?

Such a narrow, tight, and dark hallway does create space in the rooms, but it doesn't look nice; it feels like being in a small apartment. Personally, I would enlarge the hallway and especially plan a window, but I also don't think children's rooms need to be 20 sqm. For example, we still have a 1.50m wide closet in our upstairs hallway with a vacuum cleaner; it's quite practical not to have to carry it up the stairs.

Best regards
Sabine