Single-family house, approx. 140 m², 2 children's rooms - What do you think of the floor plan?

  • Erstellt am 2018-08-04 14:18:13

Stege90

2018-08-04 14:18:13
  • #1
Hello,
we have been offered a plot of land by a developer and would like to have our future home built there. The plot is located at the end of a cul-de-sac in a traffic-calmed residential area (infill development).
I have to say upfront that we have not yet received very much information from the developer. We have communicated our rough wishes to him, and he has created a first draft for us. So far, only for the ground floor.
It would be great if you could help us evaluate this before we get too far into the further planning and then have to change everything again.

The location of the house on the plot is due to the fact that all other variants we considered would cast too much shadow on the rest of the plot.
The plot, which is still undeveloped on the site plan, has meanwhile been built on with a bungalow (drawn in). A carport is being built between the bungalow and our plot.

Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: approx. 750 m²
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: no information received yet
Floor space index: no information received yet
Building window, building line and boundary: no information received yet
Edge development: no information received yet
Number of parking spaces: no information received yet
Number of floors: no information received yet
Roof shape:
Style:
Orientation: see picture
Maximum heights/limits: ?
Other requirements ?

Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type: A shed roof was desired in order to have as few slopes as possible, but according to the developer and the development plan this is not possible, so he proposed a gable roof - this still needs to be clarified
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of persons, age: currently 3 (28, 28, 1), planned: second child
Room requirements on the ground floor, upper floor: GF: guest toilet, utility room, kitchen/dining room, living room; UF: 3 bedrooms, office, bathroom
Office: family use or home office? - office that will occasionally be used as a mobile workplace; initially also used as a guest room
Guests per year – every 3 months 2-4 persons
Open or closed architecture – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: will probably be a mix
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen to dining room – freestanding cooking island no; separation to dining room by a counter
Number of dining seats: min. 6, possibility of a large table (big family)
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: yes in the living room, where the sofa is currently drawn (wall left towards the carport), sofa then around the corner north and east - pictures may be placed on the wall towards the dining room
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage was desired, but we also like the current proposal
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should not be:
Bathroom – T-bath with shower cubicle desired; a large washbasin
Walk-in closet not desired
No basement
Access possible via the garage/carport

House design
By whom is the planning:
- planner of a construction company
What do you especially like? Why?
What do you not like? Why?

We will definitely want the carport to be wider than on the first floor plan - at least 4 meters.
Striking is the missing entrance area, i.e., the actual front door. We initially found this strange, but it gives us many possibilities inside, so after some consideration we don’t find it so bad.
Price estimate according to architect/planner; personal price limit for the house, including equipment: approx. €260,000
Preferred heating technology: not yet discussed

If you have to do without, which details/extensions
-can you do without: garage - was already left out by the developer in order to be able to design the solution without a main entrance area
-can you not do without: cooking/dining area - pantry by the kitchen

Why is the draft as it is now? For example:
We do not want a completely open living/dining area. That is why we want the living room as a separate room.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think about the missing classic entrance area?

Please feel free to criticize and offer improvement suggestions. At first, it is about the location of the house on the plot and the ground floor layout. Since we are still at the beginning, many things can still be changed.

 

11ant

2018-08-04 15:01:36
  • #2
That all sounds very unfortunate. A house design can actually only be developed once the entire room program has been compiled and distributed across the levels. What can be seen here instead is an attempt to somehow use a buildable footprint with rooms. And now the second half of your living space needs is supposed to be built on that – uncertain what volume the attic still allows. That is a foolish stunt and can lead to nothing that makes sense.

Am I right to assume as a trigger that you liked some house of this developer? – or was he simply one nearby?

Is he even a building developer (= sells a built-on plot, which does not necessarily mean that construction has already started), or more a building contractor (who also brokers the land but still sells house and land separately)?

I hope you haven't signed anything yet. Someone who simply blindly reaches into the lottery drum of the property market to sell you a house on that basis is more a fortune hunter than a competent partner for what is supposed to be a home for the family.

Experienced and successful developers do not hang around in the batch size of "one single-family house unit" – rather desperate contractors (who moreover usually strongly advise against completion guarantees).

Do not rush into this ruin, keep looking.
 

kaho674

2018-08-04 15:06:36
  • #3
At the entrance area, I can't discover anything unconventional. You come in and stand in the hallway like in almost every house I know. I don't find the start of the floor plan completely unsuccessful. The dining room is too narrow and uncomfortable for me. In my opinion, the house needs more depth there – also so that the kitchen becomes a bit bigger. I would eliminate the storage room under the stairs, reverse the direction of the stairs, and allocate half of the stairs (and the space under the stairs) to the utility room. Large sliding doors between the dining table and living room make everything appear much more spacious right away. However, the discussion doesn't make sense without [OG]. The position of the house far to the west ruins your chance for a west terrace and sun in the evening. But if you’ve already invested a lot of time in this consideration, I’ll save the keystrokes.
 

11ant

2018-08-04 15:12:37
  • #4
It's not the floor plan of the ground floor on its own that's bad, but the methodical approach *clears throat* "highly questionable," to draw a ground floor for the client even though it still needs to be clarified what actually goes into the upper floor. Anyone who blunders so grossly already during planning will leave a more disappointed client than the general contractor from
 

Stege90

2018-08-04 20:49:28
  • #5
You are right. Without the upper floor, everything is hard to plan. We also want to have the development plan first to know all the details. We are buying the plot of land from the builder and afterwards we will "have to" build with him of course. I can understand your basic doubts about this builder, as it looks now, but ultimately we have great trust in him. He is a typical rural builder. He is one of two builders in our region and has a very good reputation. In our town, he has, it feels like, built every second house. We will definitely critically address his approach and then it will work.


I find that interesting, but I don’t quite understand it yet. With this variant, the space under the stairs, which is currently drawn as a storage room/niche, would be added to the utility room. What would be the advantage there? Or how could I use that room better there? That would mean I would have a slant including a niche, which would take away a "wall of cupboards," or am I understanding that wrong?


I am also still open here, but we believe we have thought it through. A position in the southeast would take away a lot of sun from us during the day (no south-facing windows on the ground floor), and the house would also cast a large shadow over a big part of the plot. Only from late afternoon in summer would we then have a good sunny spot. As a possible solution for your mentioned problem, we have in mind to create a terrace in the east corner of the plot.
 

11ant

2018-08-04 21:33:01
  • #6
Well, the Büttenwarderer are not really such a demanding clientele either
 

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