House and garage, carport placement on rear property

  • Erstellt am 2023-10-31 15:57:12

hanghaus2023

2023-11-02 13:09:59
  • #1
Do you only have a right of use for the driveway?
 

hanghaus2023

2023-11-02 13:16:26
  • #2


You are certainly right. However, the OP planned the CP on the northeast.

I have drawn a small turning area.

 

Nico79Bln

2023-11-02 14:17:24
  • #3
Hello everyone, first of all, many thanks for the lively participation.



Honestly, the issue of floor area ratio is still a mystery to me.
So far I have assumed that I may build/impermeabilize 677m² x 0.2=135.4m² + 30m² (exceptional permit confirmed by the building authority) = 165.4m². I also had in mind somewhere at the back that the material used plays a role in how a surface is counted. For example, a concrete surface counts differently than grass grid stones. But here I could be completely wrong.

Here is the exact wording on the measure of structural use:

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The development plan is a bit cryptic regarding the full stories. Here is the concrete text

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Construction companies we have talked to so far said that this can be implemented by a minimal roof slope on the upper floor since no knee wall height is specified. There are also some new houses in the immediate neighborhood that look like a classic city villa from the outside. Of course, it is not possible to tell from the outside whether there is a roof slope in the upper floor. Here are two pictures from the same street as our plot and within the scope of the same development plan:

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The idea of cutting out was worth its weight in gold. We have been playing around with the snippets for two days now and will publish our favorite solutions here.
But what do you mean by the post wagon problem? The access to our plot runs over the plot of the front neighbor. We only have a right of way and right of utilities. On the street side, there are two access gates, one for the neighbor and one for us. Our doorbell and mailbox are supposed to be installed there in the future as well. What problem arises here?



That was also our concern, so we have also considered a possibility to turn directly on the plot. Certainly no problem with the Smart, but for the family wagon you probably have to plan a turning area


The demolition building in the background belonged to the previous owner and was from the 30s. It was built before the neighbor built his house so close to the boundary. The previous owner even gave the neighbor the seedlings for the now 20m high spruces :mad:




We have a right of way and right of utilities secured in the land register, if you


You hit the nail on the head with your drawing. The turning area would indeed be a good idea, but this probably has to be clarified again with the floor area ratio. Do people here have experience how annoying it is to have to always go through the garage to go around the house? Or should one leave half a meter space between the property boundary and the garage to walk past? With a carport this question doesn't arise..

And again many thanks for the lively feedback.
 

WilderSueden

2023-11-02 14:36:58
  • #4
The thing with the floor area ratio is also not completely clear to me here. My interpretation would be the 165sqm for everything. Material plays a role in stormwater runoff, but not with the floor area ratio. I assume the development plan is also somewhat older and maybe different versions of the laws come into play here? I suspect that Dimeto knows this, but he is not active here, only in the green forum whose name must not be mentioned ;)


The question is how often you need to go around the house and for what purpose. Some space between the garage and the boundary can make sense, after all, you have to paint such a garage sometimes and might not be able to do so from the neighbor’s property. As a regular walkway, half a meter is definitely much too little.
 

Nida35a

2023-11-02 16:32:00
  • #5

We also have a rear property in Berlin-Lichtenberg and also thought 0.2 floor area ratio.
In a conversation with the responsible building authority employee and the limits and tolerances of the floor area ratio, it turned out that everything under 0.21 is approved, our floor area ratio is 0.2099+4sqm executed ;).
No one lets driveways to garages and parking spaces end 2m before the garage, just because the floor area ratio is all used up.
 

Nida35a

2023-11-02 16:34:21
  • #6
We have a carport instead of a garage specifically to be able to walk around the house. More annoying are your own cars in the driveway when walking past.
 

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