Bauexperte
2011-11-23 11:51:59
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Hello,
The mentioned price refers to a semi-detached house including the plot, I assume. The stated price for the sanitary trade would, in my opinion, barely fit; big jumps in terms of sanitary objects are not planned with this price design.
Where should there be room for EUR 8,000 for sanitary objects within the above-mentioned number/trade sanitary? If I am right, the share for sanitary objects is at most EUR 4,000, in my opinion. Unless the EUR 8,000 refers to a figure detached from the sanitary trade/to be regarded as an independent trade?
So primarily hot air with zero responsibility, since the individual trades are liable, but a fee amounting to a good 15-17% of the contract sum + costs for external construction managers? This would also explain the restrictive approach of the sanitary company, as its contractually owed services are a "free ride" or filling its order books – profits only possible through markup.
It cannot be different with the sanitary trade figure and if your objection – sanitary objects EUR 8,000 – is actually included in the total price for the sanitary trade, you will probably get the Italian product installed.
And one more note. You wrote at one point: "I also already offered, in return for offsetting (i.e. crediting the standard costs), to procure the sanitary equipment myself, this was vehemently rejected, only possible for self-installation at own risk and without credit!"
Your general contractor can forget that; it does not work that way. Upon your written request, he must remove the sanitary trade. However, he does not have to assume any warranty for this so-called in-house work and must inform you of the possible risks in case of external assignment. At the same time, you have to have his "chargeable services" for the trade deducted. This means translated: if he has already awarded the trade and costs occur for him due to cancellation of the related contracts, he can deduct them including a kind of “compensation” (let’s call it that) for himself from any possible credit. Removal of the sanitary trade and keeping profit without service/credit is not provided by the legislator. For details, a lawyer you trust knows more.
So much for the topic "The architectural office has the project management" :rolleyes:
Best regards
Well, this semi-detached house was generally sold to us as very high-quality, meaning high-quality equipment, I think at a price of EUR 295,000 one can definitely expect that.. The trade sanitary, solar, heating alone amounts to EUR 23,500
The mentioned price refers to a semi-detached house including the plot, I assume. The stated price for the sanitary trade would, in my opinion, barely fit; big jumps in terms of sanitary objects are not planned with this price design.
just for the equipment alone, but there are already some great things for EUR 8,000..
Where should there be room for EUR 8,000 for sanitary objects within the above-mentioned number/trade sanitary? If I am right, the share for sanitary objects is at most EUR 4,000, in my opinion. Unless the EUR 8,000 refers to a figure detached from the sanitary trade/to be regarded as an independent trade?
The architectural office has the project management (contract, acquisition and awarding management) with construction manager, etc.
So primarily hot air with zero responsibility, since the individual trades are liable, but a fee amounting to a good 15-17% of the contract sum + costs for external construction managers? This would also explain the restrictive approach of the sanitary company, as its contractually owed services are a "free ride" or filling its order books – profits only possible through markup.
There will be a gas heating, gas condensing boiler... hasn’t come up yet, that is the strange thing, we have no idea what kind, etc... In any case, a gas heating system is contractually mentioned...
It cannot be different with the sanitary trade figure and if your objection – sanitary objects EUR 8,000 – is actually included in the total price for the sanitary trade, you will probably get the Italian product installed.
And one more note. You wrote at one point: "I also already offered, in return for offsetting (i.e. crediting the standard costs), to procure the sanitary equipment myself, this was vehemently rejected, only possible for self-installation at own risk and without credit!"
Your general contractor can forget that; it does not work that way. Upon your written request, he must remove the sanitary trade. However, he does not have to assume any warranty for this so-called in-house work and must inform you of the possible risks in case of external assignment. At the same time, you have to have his "chargeable services" for the trade deducted. This means translated: if he has already awarded the trade and costs occur for him due to cancellation of the related contracts, he can deduct them including a kind of “compensation” (let’s call it that) for himself from any possible credit. Removal of the sanitary trade and keeping profit without service/credit is not provided by the legislator. For details, a lawyer you trust knows more.
So much for the topic "The architectural office has the project management" :rolleyes:
Best regards