AlexSa
2014-07-18 22:49:25
- #1
Hello,
I already had a thread further down about an extension to a semi-detached house.
Now another house has come up for us, which is initially 20,000 € cheaper and almost 20 sqm larger plus the same amount as a basement extension.
However, quite a lot is in much worse condition than in the other house. What would need to be done:
-Bathroom (previously a minimal version in the basement) to be completely newly installed in a part of the existing (basemented) extension there (so far no sewage/water pipes there) -> What price ranges should we calculate? Could there be problems with laying the pipes or is that possible "everywhere"?
-The roof is still old (without overhang) and uninsulated -> Can the "half" roof of a semi-detached house be completely renovated including the installation of a gable without any problems? What price range?
-At the same time, the attic should be properly converted; you can get there directly from the children's room and I imagine that in perspective this part could then be used by the child, e.g. for sleeping, and the lower room part (only about 10 sqm) for playing, schoolwork etc.
If a second child comes, we would add a floor on top of the extension. That would then be about 18 sqm. Price range?
I know it is difficult to make general statements. But we are really weighing:
a) small but fine semi-detached house with double carport (which would have to be moved at some point) where you definitely have to extend (then immediately 2 rooms on the ground floor), with a covered ground-level terrace present but, for example, still a toilet would have to be retrofitted in the very chic tiled bathroom; 2 bedrooms would be on the ground floor next to the living room and one upstairs next to the bathroom; already converted attic serves as hobby/guest room
b) larger semi-detached house with corner plot which looks somewhat old-fashioned and is not yet in such good condition; extension could possibly become relevant with an additional floor and then all 3 bedrooms are on the upper floor
Plot A has a large pond, which we don't actually like much because of the child. Otherwise seems smaller than the other although there is only a 15 sqm difference. However, it is nicely planted so that it is private but also shadier. Purely ornamental garden, whereas I would also like some utility garden with, for example, fruit trees. Covered terrace at the house.
The gable side of the semi-detached house faces west.
Plot B is a corner plot (1 neighbor less, but more winter maintenance and possibly local charges; lamp post is also there) and therefore seems bigger. No car access and carport yet, but feasible. Seems bigger than the other and at least has an apple tree. Still quite visible, I would at least let the hedge grow higher on the two street sides. There we have already talked to both neighboring plot owners and got a nice impression. The gable side of the semi-detached house faces east. Is somewhat closer than the other to a railway line and faces it. It's not really disturbing but occasional freight trains are more noticeable than at the other one.
Hmm, how would you decide or what would be decisive criteria for you?
Cheaper house with more renovation work (although not everything would be necessary immediately, theoretically you could move in with one child like this, although I would do the bathroom right away).
Or 20,000 € more for a small gem, which is already too small even with one child and therefore immediately requires a larger extension? Which would shrink the small-looking plot even more (by the way, we are talking about 600 sqm)? Some other small things would also have to be changed. Everything is designed for a couple, not a family.
Corner plot? Plot "in the middle"?
With B (the cheaper corner plot) I am mainly attracted by the basemented extension. For us, an extension would only be an option without a basement for cost reasons. But with that room you have a lot more storage space, which we can really use!
What do about 20 sqm of basement on a flat plot cost (approximately)?
Our gut feeling unfortunately helps us little. House hunting in our town is nerve-wracking and without compromises it will never work in our desired area.
Sorry for the long text. Feel free to just answer individual questions! ;-)
I already had a thread further down about an extension to a semi-detached house.
Now another house has come up for us, which is initially 20,000 € cheaper and almost 20 sqm larger plus the same amount as a basement extension.
However, quite a lot is in much worse condition than in the other house. What would need to be done:
-Bathroom (previously a minimal version in the basement) to be completely newly installed in a part of the existing (basemented) extension there (so far no sewage/water pipes there) -> What price ranges should we calculate? Could there be problems with laying the pipes or is that possible "everywhere"?
-The roof is still old (without overhang) and uninsulated -> Can the "half" roof of a semi-detached house be completely renovated including the installation of a gable without any problems? What price range?
-At the same time, the attic should be properly converted; you can get there directly from the children's room and I imagine that in perspective this part could then be used by the child, e.g. for sleeping, and the lower room part (only about 10 sqm) for playing, schoolwork etc.
If a second child comes, we would add a floor on top of the extension. That would then be about 18 sqm. Price range?
I know it is difficult to make general statements. But we are really weighing:
a) small but fine semi-detached house with double carport (which would have to be moved at some point) where you definitely have to extend (then immediately 2 rooms on the ground floor), with a covered ground-level terrace present but, for example, still a toilet would have to be retrofitted in the very chic tiled bathroom; 2 bedrooms would be on the ground floor next to the living room and one upstairs next to the bathroom; already converted attic serves as hobby/guest room
b) larger semi-detached house with corner plot which looks somewhat old-fashioned and is not yet in such good condition; extension could possibly become relevant with an additional floor and then all 3 bedrooms are on the upper floor
Plot A has a large pond, which we don't actually like much because of the child. Otherwise seems smaller than the other although there is only a 15 sqm difference. However, it is nicely planted so that it is private but also shadier. Purely ornamental garden, whereas I would also like some utility garden with, for example, fruit trees. Covered terrace at the house.
The gable side of the semi-detached house faces west.
Plot B is a corner plot (1 neighbor less, but more winter maintenance and possibly local charges; lamp post is also there) and therefore seems bigger. No car access and carport yet, but feasible. Seems bigger than the other and at least has an apple tree. Still quite visible, I would at least let the hedge grow higher on the two street sides. There we have already talked to both neighboring plot owners and got a nice impression. The gable side of the semi-detached house faces east. Is somewhat closer than the other to a railway line and faces it. It's not really disturbing but occasional freight trains are more noticeable than at the other one.
Hmm, how would you decide or what would be decisive criteria for you?
Cheaper house with more renovation work (although not everything would be necessary immediately, theoretically you could move in with one child like this, although I would do the bathroom right away).
Or 20,000 € more for a small gem, which is already too small even with one child and therefore immediately requires a larger extension? Which would shrink the small-looking plot even more (by the way, we are talking about 600 sqm)? Some other small things would also have to be changed. Everything is designed for a couple, not a family.
Corner plot? Plot "in the middle"?
With B (the cheaper corner plot) I am mainly attracted by the basemented extension. For us, an extension would only be an option without a basement for cost reasons. But with that room you have a lot more storage space, which we can really use!
What do about 20 sqm of basement on a flat plot cost (approximately)?
Our gut feeling unfortunately helps us little. House hunting in our town is nerve-wracking and without compromises it will never work in our desired area.
Sorry for the long text. Feel free to just answer individual questions! ;-)