Regional construction company or "larger construction company"?

  • Erstellt am 2021-01-21 08:16:28

SamSamSam

2021-01-21 08:16:28
  • #1
Hello,
I have already read a lot here and was able to incorporate some of it into our planning that I probably would never have thought of otherwise, thanks for that in advance!
Now it is the case that we can buy our desired plot of land in [Landkreis Diepholz (Niedersachsen)] and thus the decision about with whom we will realize our little house (turnkey) is getting closer and closer.
So far, we have obtained several offers and are currently favoring two:

A larger company from [Lindern (Oldenburg)], distance to us about 80km.
Very attractive price, also including painting work (although only textured wallpaper and cheap laminate up to 30€/m² included in the price). Without KFW 55 and they do a lot with subcontractors, which does not necessarily have to be bad?! Price ~246,000

And a small company from the neighboring village, distance to us about 5km.
They have already built 4 houses in the town where we want to build. They would also build according to KFW 55. Disadvantage: they are more expensive than what the subsidy would cover and painting work would not be included. Price ~267,000

We are pretty torn about which is the better choice. We like regionality but how much is it worth to us to spend more... since painting work would probably be another good 10,000€.
267,000 + 10,000 - 18,000 = 259,000 vs. 246,000
Or do you say that the better energy value of the house is definitely worth it?
 

Tolentino

2021-01-21 10:13:26
  • #2
Hi. First of all, you should compare the construction service descriptions carefully to see if the house prices are really comparable. For nationwide providers, for example, the foundation slab is often not included. Nor are the earthworks. For a regional builder, the foundation slab is often included and earthworks at least for the first 30cm or so. Don’t just look at the financial aspect. I don’t really think 80km is that far, but a local builder can probably fix many things more flexibly, knows the local subcontractors better, and is better networked locally. If the general contractor knows that he might see you every Saturday in the supermarket for the next 40 years, he’ll also pay more attention to doing good work or ensuring it from his subs. I’m not saying you can’t have bad luck with a regional builder, but he is definitely more motivated to make repairs. If he has already built 4 houses in the area, ask around about the experiences. Have you already had conversations? Pay attention to whom you are talking with. With the big company, you might have a pure salesperson in front of you. He promises you everything because he knows he doesn’t have to keep it later. With the regional one, you might be talking directly to the managing director. However, in both cases it ultimately depends on the contract and the construction service description. So these need to be checked diligently.
 

WilderSueden

2021-01-21 13:07:45
  • #3
It is not decidable like this without further details. In general, the prices are relatively at the lower end of the scale unless you are building 100 sqm. I made an Excel spreadsheet for my decision and listed the costs for all offers. House, estimated upgrades, painting work (if not included), earthworks, etc., and in the end, a total comes out that you need. Price in construction-related services from the construction service description accordingly and critically question whether, for example, you really want and can paint the roof overhang (scaffolding needed = coordination with construction company). In the end, decide which house has the better price-performance ratio.

For subsidies, I then have a separate block at the very bottom. These are initially not important for the decision and at best the tipping point.
 

SamSamSam

2021-01-21 13:17:12
  • #4
Thanks first of all for your tips. The construction service description is pretty much identical for both, or if something was missing we requested it and included the additional cost. We have to add something for plumbing and electrical for both since usually only the standard is included. The floor slab and earthworks of 30cm are already included in both as well. What you mentioned hits the point: with the bigger company we speak with a "salesperson" who then hands us over to the site manager once it starts and is out of the picture. With the small company, we spoke directly with the owner who will also supervise the construction site and help out. Experiences with other builders was also a reason to choose Weg Positiv, although there were issues sometimes but they were resolved. The price was usually the downside there as well. What surprised me a bit was his statement that it doesn't matter if there is one more window or not, since the work of the wall that the window replaces would then be gone. :confused: For me that's a questionable calculation but I have zero knowledge of prices.
 

11ant

2021-01-21 14:53:01
  • #5
For me the decision would be clear. I would not base my house construction on which areas politics currently wants to promote with funding. On the other hand, meeting KfW 55 requirements is probably not such a big deal, I would ask about that again. 80 km distance is, in my view, quite on the edge of the regional – I would expect that they then do not work with the same subs they usually do. But if your plans are already ready for tender, you should show them here once. Whose plans are they anyway? – with an architect you have basically already met the tendering professional.
 

SamSamSam

2021-01-22 10:31:42
  • #6

You would choose the bigger, cheaper, more distant company?
From our perspective, we worked out with the bigger company what we want and how it should look. This is based on a house we visited with them, which matched our ideas quite well. Here, we only had to slightly move a few walls and plan doors differently.
We then presented this floor plan to the regional construction company, which calculated its offer based on it.
Is it allowed to just upload these documents here? :oops:
We have not spoken to an architect yet.
 

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