Outdoor lamps up/downlights wanted / purchase recommendation

For seekers as a mini tip for reading the relevant values

[*]Light color - unit Kelvin - High value >4000 similar to midday sun (towards blue) Low value <3000 similar to evening sun (towards orange)
[*]Example: You have installed 2 LED spots in a ceiling. Both have the same amount of light -

but that sounds different from what it really is. 4000 Kelvin is already quite cold, I once installed it experimentally in the bathroom and it does not feel comfortable, it appears very cold. 2700 Kelvin is like a normal 60W incandescent bulb and 3000 Kelvin is, in my opinion, pleasantly warm white without appearing yellowish in any way. You should try it out first before equipping everything with expensive LEDs and later not liking the light color.

Best regards
Sabine

That sounds different from what it really is.

Apparently misleading. 4000K is indeed quite cold. The midday light of summer is also quite cold (5500-7000 depending on cloud cover). However, since it is a warm light source and in the "CRI" so to speak the standard of color-accurate light, the colors appear different than with "equally cold" light. The perception is different. That is why a high CRI is so pleasant.
Your observation that a normal 60W incandescent bulb has about 2700K is correct. Incandescent bulbs have a warm light - the glow is rather orange-ish. As a warm light source, an incandescent bulb has such high color accuracy that people did not need to worry about it in the past. Again a hint at the importance of the CRI.
Anyone who compares LEDs will notice that LEDs with the same color temperature can emit quite different light - one appears "warmer" and has a high CRI, the other "colder," because it has a smaller color spectrum that looks natural.

One should try it out beforehand before equipping everything with expensive LEDs and then not liking the light color.

A safe tip.

Anyone who compares LEDs once will notice that LEDs with the same color temperature can emit significantly different light -

Additionally, they age differently, the light changes. Also a reason for replaceable light bulbs. It is not only about total failure.

So we bought the ETime from the big online retailer for just under 30 euros and are very satisfied.

For durability, I would also always prefer glass covers on the outside during cooking in the UV light of the sun instead of the often used polycarbonate versions; PC must be protected against UV light by appropriate stabilizers. Otherwise, it yellows and becomes brittle (which, for example, is said to have already happened with the Philips bollard lights according to customer reviews).

Is UV protection for polycarbonate also possible for the "advertised" 20-50,000 operating hours?

Anyone who compares LEDs once will notice that LEDs with the same color temperature can still emit very different light - one appears "warmer" and has a high CRI, the other "colder," as it has a smaller color spectrum that looks natural.

I have already had LED lamps with greenish light (3000K), which really looked artificial; only then do you realize how well a simple incandescent lamp lights. Now we have the Philips Master LED lamps with 3000K and a CRI of 97, which I can really recommend; they make white furniture look nicely bright without appearing yellow. Best regards Sabine