Opportunity to build on a plot of land next to the suburban railway line?

  • Erstellt am 2020-08-07 10:37:50

shenja

2020-08-10 12:00:49
  • #1

It is almost every day and always, even during the week, at these times. It starts at 8 p.m. and always ends well after midnight and yes, also with children and no, not just during the holidays. Often also with friends and those shishas.
Also in winter, then with a fire basket. If it were once a month, I wouldn’t say anything. But we can gladly swap. I have been dealing with this almost every day for 5 years. I do not sleep with the window open, impossible. Even at over 30 degrees.
 

Climbee

2020-08-10 12:23:44
  • #2
This is a different situation. As far as I know, a party is allowed once a month - not more often. What do the other neighbors say? Surely more than just you are affected.

I would team up with the other neighbors affected and pay this neighbor an informal visit together to clarify what is okay and what is not.

If that doesn't help and repeated requests (which I would eventually also make in writing or by email if the email address is known) to observe the normal quiet hours don't work either, then there is probably no other choice but to call the police when the noise disturbance happens again.
I am not sure, but if the police have been called three times legitimately due to noise disturbance, this can also be pursued civilly.

But I am not very knowledgeable legally.

However, one should certainly not tolerate such ongoing noise disturbance!
 

shenja

2020-08-10 12:35:17
  • #3
I will not put up with it. The others don’t dare to say anything and on the other hand, well, they come from the same area with the same language and for them that’s normal. My disturbing neighbors said last time that it’s just due to the mentality. Believe me, the children/adults who are outside during the day don’t bother me at all. But at night I would like to sleep sometime. Whether it’s a weekday or weekend. We are seriously considering selling.
 

Tolentino

2020-08-10 12:44:14
  • #4
Phew, that’s awful. I had the experience as a tenant with the downstairs neighbor. It was some young guy who had taken on a subtenant. So a shared flat. During the week, several times until 2 or 3 in the morning, loud music, yelling, clinking beer bottles, and that in an apartment where I could hear the neighbor pee... Talking helped nothing. At some point I told him, "Look, if this keeps up, I can really only call the police, then I won’t come ringing anymore!" Two days later, at half past midnight, I felt the bass in my whole body again, called the police. And it went on like that. You can even file a noise complaint after just one incident, it just costs 35 EUR, and the noise must be clearly disturbing at the time the police arrive. Eventually it actually got better. He moved out. But with owners, it’s harder. If you want to involve the police, you have to get allies among the other neighbors, otherwise it will be difficult. Alternatively, after their parties in the morning, strike back. How about mowing the lawn or shredding at seven in the morning? Beware, the risk of a neighborhood war is high...
 

Evolith

2020-08-10 12:49:45
  • #5
We live right next to a railway line. During peak times, the S-Bahn runs 4 times an hour, otherwise twice. We hardly notice the S-Bahn outside anymore. Several times a day, a freight train also passes by. You have to briefly pause the conversation when sitting in the garden. Inside the house, you can hardly hear them. We got used to it very quickly, and I can't even tell you how many trains passed by yesterday. I can't even remember a freight train. Of course, you have a much higher frequency. Sit down and have a nice picnic there, and then just see if after 2 hours you still pay attention to it at all.
 

Climbee

2020-08-10 13:24:24
  • #6
I would also look for allies among the neighbors and then mercilessly involve the police.

Keep a "noise diary" and have all the other annoyed neighbors do the same. Check with the police in advance about what you can do – if you have already had a conversation beforehand, you already have a basis when you then turn to them at night. Especially in small towns, the chance that you might even get the same officer on duty is not small.

Inform the noisy neighbors that you will no longer tolerate this noise disturbance in the future without further ado and that you will call the police if it happens again. But then you must actually do this – otherwise you will lose credibility and they will keep walking all over you. Because: you bark, but don't bite.

I would probably also consult a lawyer to find out what options I have. If you have legal expenses insurance, an informational consultation is usually free. Even a letter from a lawyer to the noisy neighbors can have an effect.

Mentality or no mentality, the basic rules valid here also apply to different mentalities – and that means a quiet time starting at 10 p.m. In summer, I am not so strict about it either, but if it is a permanent condition, the situation looks different.
 

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