Old gas heater defective -> need a new one, but which one?!?

  • Erstellt am 2020-02-11 07:34:41

Nissandriver

2020-02-11 14:31:52
  • #1


OK, thanks first of all for your information. I hadn’t even thought about a gas hybrid heating system yet. I will bring up the topic.
I also plan to insulate the basement ceiling, but it is slightly curved. I still have to inquire about that.
Windows were installed in 2013, exterior walls were not insulated because the walls are quite thick.
 

Nissandriver

2020-03-03 08:22:03
  • #2
Good morning,

so I have now obtained several offers.

    [*]Gas condensing boiler with hot water heat pump (to the cellar with dehumidifying) ~ €10,000 - €11,000 (including installation + materials etc.) (Buderus and Weishaupt)
    [*]Heat pump with hot water heat pump (including installation + materials etc.) ~ €26,000, but this is subsidized with ~ €9,400. The heating technician wanted the m² of the individual rooms + ceiling height and what is installed where -> from this he calculated it
    [*]I have not yet received an offer for a gas hybrid heating system..

It is amazing how the statements from the heating companies are..
For example:

    [*]Everything out, new gas condensing boiler in, electric instantaneous water heater stays
    [*]Everything out, new gas condensing boiler in, hot water will be done through it
    [*]no alternatives
    [*]all nonsense with alternatives (but advertise this on their website ops :) )

Of 6 companies, one actually took a closer look at the old heating system and cleaned it again -> gas smell dropped sharply
The others more or less made a "remote diagnosis"

The decision is not easy.. Either become somewhat more independent with the photovoltaic system and rely on alternatives or fall back completely on fossil fuels again (alternatively on bio-gas)

We plan to have a photovoltaic system installed anyway. (9.9 kWp)
 

Basti2709

2020-03-03 08:44:24
  • #3
Gas condensing boiler + hot water in one and done (I would completely avoid photovoltaics and such gimmicks - they only make everything unnecessarily expensive and you never get that money back).

I don’t quite understand the thing with the hot water heat pump:

"Domestic hot water heat pumps can, for example, use air from basement rooms, which have a constant and relatively high temperature during the winter months. The temperature in the basement room is lowered by the heat pump by about 2-4°C."

At the same time, the basement air is dehumidified."


Which basement has a constant relatively high temperature in winter? Also, the basement is cooled at the same time, right? And with a cold basement, there are problems with condensate again? - doesn’t sound logical to me at first.

With the new system and the replacement of the instantaneous water heater, you’ll already be more "environmentally friendly"… driven by biogas for all I care…
 

T_im_Norden

2020-03-03 08:47:50
  • #4
Be sure to go to the other forum (the red one) and get advice there. Have all the data about your house ready and include that, wind speed insulation, windows, consumption. With a heat pump or heat pump in the basement, all my alarm bells are ringing at the moment.
 

T_im_Norden

2020-03-03 08:49:43
  • #5
Photovoltaic system please note that the cover has not been lifted so far, it may happen that there is no secured feed-in tariff.
 

Nissandriver

2020-03-03 08:59:37
  • #6

You can’t get a photovoltaic system in anymore? I read something different in various forums (but you shouldn’t use a storage).

If the heating (gas heating, old) is in the basement, it also gives off heat. How much that makes, I can’t answer right now.


Okay, I’m on it! I have already read about the hot water heat pump in the other forum. But I will ask specifically there again.

Had a conversation with the nice colleagues yesterday, he said if it still works with March now, you get 9.87 cents/kWh for the next 20 years. But I will check again.
 

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