Offer for electrical planning new single-family house 180 sqm including double garage

Are the LAN cables installed in the conduit exchangeable for the princely price?

As mentioned, that was the first offer for the fixed price of the GU. The detailed electrical planning took place last week. We went through our plans with the electrician and specifically determined the number of sockets, etc.

Currently, we have 75 lighting circuits (whatever that means), 45 switches, 97 sockets, 10 LAN duplex sockets, 11 room thermostats, 24 x motor connections, etc. That amounts to €43,000 net. The kitchen power circuits are not yet included here and still need to be coordinated with the kitchen manufacturer. Overall, the gross amount is certainly close to €55,000.

How someone wants to switch 75 lighting circuits with 45 conventional switches is still not quite clear to me.

But that definitely sounds like you're simply in it now and that - as mentioned - apart from quantity adjustments maybe, your price is. That's GU-life.

Sounds like a [GÜ] to me and not a [GU]. My [GU] at least doesn’t show me the prices he calculates for the subcontractors. So what are you paying on TOP of that – what is included in the house price offer?

Is this house going to be built here now?

We have already obtained significantly cheaper alternative offers. But the general contractor said today that the contract for the electrical installation has already been awarded and the company can no longer be changed. Although in our opinion, nothing concrete had been agreed upon yet and, as is theoretically possible with every trade, there is the option to remove it and award it ourselves.

How do you come up with the idea to arbitrarily reduce the contract award to a general contractor?

What do you think of the attached offer? This is apparently the standard initial offer from our general contractor’s "house & yard electrician." We had the planning meeting with the electrician recently and the costs have basically exploded. Currently, they are at about €55,000 for a standard electrical installation without frills. Sockets and LAN connections have increased (currently 97 / 20), but we completely removed SAT. Lighting circuits have increased from 34 to 75 (we will still adjust that. The electrician calculated his proposal for spots and completely overdid it in terms of quantity).

The question of awarding the electrical lot to the general contractor – actually even the choice of a general contractor at all – I would have largely based on how congruent the electrical work description is with my own ideas. I work with a home automation planner – what he can design completely overwhelms many village electricians by miles. Actually, it's quite simple: you just have to understand that the "stone" mantra of the 11ant (a forum user) applies similarly to other elements of house construction.

How is the case with you: do you want
a) simply more circuits but otherwise basic fare
z) a smart home or even a gaming man cave garnished with living spaces
or what exactly somewhere in between? ... after that, it is decided where your electrician sweetheart would be to find.

It is a general contractor. Much is done by themselves and not subcontracted. Our fixed-price offer includes a budget of €41,000 for the electrical installation.

Is this house being built here now?

How do you come up with the idea of arbitrarily reducing the contract award to a general contractor?

Several changes were still made to the plans, but yes, this house is the basis.

Our contract states that self-performed work can be done. It must be reported "in a timely manner." Trades that have already been commissioned can no longer be performed as self-performed work.

Home-cooked food at a reasonable price would be enough for me.