ErsterHausbau
2024-11-04 10:41:15
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Hello everyone,
after having read so many helpful posts here today, I had to register right away and describe our current situation:
We are a family of four with two small children, far away from acquaintances and relatives (this already means we have to do some work ourselves because we both work and have no time or energy left for it)
Net income: ~€6300
Expenses: ~€2700 (of which >€900 for daycare fees. We actually live very frugally and one of the main expenses currently really is the children :D. ~€1400 rent including utilities)
Capital: ~€500,000 (we only want to use part of this, depending on what would be ideal for financing)
Private loans: €150,000 (repayment over 15-20 years, interest-free)
KfW300: €220,000 (we could get this if we build in 2025, assuming KfW40 + QNG. Repayment within 10 years, then interest of ~0.1-0.2%)
We are currently applying for a new development near Tübingen at €650/sqm --> total plot price: €229,000 excl. incidental costs
We are total novices and not very skilled with crafts and have researched a lot in the past weeks – but we are still at the very beginning. We have already obtained several offers for monolithic construction, solid wood, and several timber frame construction providers.
The house we requested:
No basement (we had to scratch that immediately after the first offers, because it is so much more expensive)
Carport (garage not allowed in residential areas)
170 sqm floor area on 2 full floors on a slab (also to compensate for the missing basement and garage)
At least 5 bedrooms (2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, and 2 offices/guest rooms for home office)
District heating available in the new development
Shed roof required and all roofs must be greened
We have already done preliminary samples and have a relatively good overview of what extras we want. These are few points and in most cases we could live with the standards from the construction and service descriptions.
Now to the actual problem:
The offers we have for the house + carport + photovoltaic + storage all amount to over >€620,000. I estimate the incidental costs (construction incidental costs, outdoor facilities, kitchen, district heating connection, architect, etc.) at ~€100-130,000. Simply because I lack experience and find very different figures on the internet. And my feeling is that there will always be something extra that one didn’t expect.
Therefore, I am at total costs of about:
Plot + incidental costs: ~€249,000
House + carport + photovoltaic + storage: ~€620,000
Incidental costs: ~€115,000
Total: ~€980,000
If I calculate the monthly rate for the bank loan, repayment of private loans, and repayment of the KfW300 loan at these costs, I already come to >€3000 per month, and this does not yet include incidental costs, maintenance reserves, etc. If I include these, I come to ~€3600 per month and our financing advisor said banks will not approve more because our income is too low for that.
We therefore really feel very poor and it is somehow frustrating to subjectively afford so little house.
Now my questions: Am I calculating too much incorrectly? Or are the demands simply too high and for house construction under 1 million you only get 120 sqm terraced houses?
after having read so many helpful posts here today, I had to register right away and describe our current situation:
We are a family of four with two small children, far away from acquaintances and relatives (this already means we have to do some work ourselves because we both work and have no time or energy left for it)
Net income: ~€6300
Expenses: ~€2700 (of which >€900 for daycare fees. We actually live very frugally and one of the main expenses currently really is the children :D. ~€1400 rent including utilities)
Capital: ~€500,000 (we only want to use part of this, depending on what would be ideal for financing)
Private loans: €150,000 (repayment over 15-20 years, interest-free)
KfW300: €220,000 (we could get this if we build in 2025, assuming KfW40 + QNG. Repayment within 10 years, then interest of ~0.1-0.2%)
We are currently applying for a new development near Tübingen at €650/sqm --> total plot price: €229,000 excl. incidental costs
We are total novices and not very skilled with crafts and have researched a lot in the past weeks – but we are still at the very beginning. We have already obtained several offers for monolithic construction, solid wood, and several timber frame construction providers.
The house we requested:
No basement (we had to scratch that immediately after the first offers, because it is so much more expensive)
Carport (garage not allowed in residential areas)
170 sqm floor area on 2 full floors on a slab (also to compensate for the missing basement and garage)
At least 5 bedrooms (2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, and 2 offices/guest rooms for home office)
District heating available in the new development
Shed roof required and all roofs must be greened
We have already done preliminary samples and have a relatively good overview of what extras we want. These are few points and in most cases we could live with the standards from the construction and service descriptions.
Now to the actual problem:
The offers we have for the house + carport + photovoltaic + storage all amount to over >€620,000. I estimate the incidental costs (construction incidental costs, outdoor facilities, kitchen, district heating connection, architect, etc.) at ~€100-130,000. Simply because I lack experience and find very different figures on the internet. And my feeling is that there will always be something extra that one didn’t expect.
Therefore, I am at total costs of about:
Plot + incidental costs: ~€249,000
House + carport + photovoltaic + storage: ~€620,000
Incidental costs: ~€115,000
Total: ~€980,000
If I calculate the monthly rate for the bank loan, repayment of private loans, and repayment of the KfW300 loan at these costs, I already come to >€3000 per month, and this does not yet include incidental costs, maintenance reserves, etc. If I include these, I come to ~€3600 per month and our financing advisor said banks will not approve more because our income is too low for that.
We therefore really feel very poor and it is somehow frustrating to subjectively afford so little house.
Now my questions: Am I calculating too much incorrectly? Or are the demands simply too high and for house construction under 1 million you only get 120 sqm terraced houses?