MikeStgt
2019-03-20 09:31:45
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Hello,
our property management (8 condominiums) surprised us with a cost estimate for the installation of a meter cabinet and the extension of the grounding system for around 15,000 euros.
The building (from the 1930s) is located in Stuttgart (EnBW) – and only companies approved by EnBW are allowed to carry out the installation...
1)
Is such a competitor exclusion even permissible – doesn’t this practically lead to regional monopolies? Actually, every master electrician should be able to install a meter cabinet, right?
2)
Is the value of a Ford Fiesta (approx. 10,000 components) a realistic price for this? When you look online, the pure material cost for the cabinet (approx. 100 components) is between 800-1000 euros, and the required electronics barely cost more than 200 to 300 euros per residential unit – there are also pre-assembled meter cabinets that can presumably be installed within 1-2 hours... – but allegedly, for liability reasons (?), no electrical company wants to install them...
The supplier of the meter cabinet is liable for the correct wiring inside the cabinet – the connection should then be done within 1-2 hours, right?
Attached is an excerpt of the main invoice items for estimation:
Meter cabinet for 8 residential units, 1 general meter, 1 distribution field with APZ space,
1 control device, complete with SLS switches 7,993 euros
Mounting rail for this 94 euros
NYM-J 5x35 installation cable 573 euros
TEHALIT LF 60090 cable conduit channel 390 euros
NYM-J 1x16 installation cable 80 euros
Pipelife PSM-E-MF 20 rigid PVC pipe 40 euros
FRAE M20 clamp bracket 28 euros
Hensel Mi6426 NH fuse load disconnector switch housing 572 euros
63A VNH fuse 24 euros
OBO 213 ground rod 1500mm with band steel flag 76 euros
Small parts and fastening materials including disposal 120 euros
OBO 1809 equipotential bonding conductor rail 12 euros
Vehicle provision 70 euros
Installation effort approx. 2,350 euros
In total 12,423 euros
Value added tax 2,360 euros
Total amount 14,782 euros
3)
The costs for the riser cables to the individual apartments are not yet included here...
What costs are usually incurred for this?
4)
Is an installation effort of 2,350 euros (equivalent to around 31 hours at 75 euros/hour...) realistic?
Allegedly, the installation of the meter cabinet is a requirement from the utility provider because the meters have to be installed in the basement for fire protection reasons and are no longer allowed on the floors.
Allegedly, the requirement previously only applied to one apartment owner – who renovated his entire apartment electrical system and also installed a heavy current connection at his parking space – and has nothing to do with these changes to the system? Since reportedly all other owners have to reckon with this requirement – now all meters should go to the basement...
5)
Is there any existing rights protection for the individual apartments or must the electrical installation in the apartments also be brought up to the latest standard?
The building is from the 1930s.
6)
How do you assess the estimated costs – are these market standard or are there alternatives to reduce costs here?
Thank you very much for all constructive tips and advice
Sven
our property management (8 condominiums) surprised us with a cost estimate for the installation of a meter cabinet and the extension of the grounding system for around 15,000 euros.
The building (from the 1930s) is located in Stuttgart (EnBW) – and only companies approved by EnBW are allowed to carry out the installation...
1)
Is such a competitor exclusion even permissible – doesn’t this practically lead to regional monopolies? Actually, every master electrician should be able to install a meter cabinet, right?
2)
Is the value of a Ford Fiesta (approx. 10,000 components) a realistic price for this? When you look online, the pure material cost for the cabinet (approx. 100 components) is between 800-1000 euros, and the required electronics barely cost more than 200 to 300 euros per residential unit – there are also pre-assembled meter cabinets that can presumably be installed within 1-2 hours... – but allegedly, for liability reasons (?), no electrical company wants to install them...
The supplier of the meter cabinet is liable for the correct wiring inside the cabinet – the connection should then be done within 1-2 hours, right?
Attached is an excerpt of the main invoice items for estimation:
Meter cabinet for 8 residential units, 1 general meter, 1 distribution field with APZ space,
1 control device, complete with SLS switches 7,993 euros
Mounting rail for this 94 euros
NYM-J 5x35 installation cable 573 euros
TEHALIT LF 60090 cable conduit channel 390 euros
NYM-J 1x16 installation cable 80 euros
Pipelife PSM-E-MF 20 rigid PVC pipe 40 euros
FRAE M20 clamp bracket 28 euros
Hensel Mi6426 NH fuse load disconnector switch housing 572 euros
63A VNH fuse 24 euros
OBO 213 ground rod 1500mm with band steel flag 76 euros
Small parts and fastening materials including disposal 120 euros
OBO 1809 equipotential bonding conductor rail 12 euros
Vehicle provision 70 euros
Installation effort approx. 2,350 euros
In total 12,423 euros
Value added tax 2,360 euros
Total amount 14,782 euros
3)
The costs for the riser cables to the individual apartments are not yet included here...
What costs are usually incurred for this?
4)
Is an installation effort of 2,350 euros (equivalent to around 31 hours at 75 euros/hour...) realistic?
Allegedly, the installation of the meter cabinet is a requirement from the utility provider because the meters have to be installed in the basement for fire protection reasons and are no longer allowed on the floors.
Allegedly, the requirement previously only applied to one apartment owner – who renovated his entire apartment electrical system and also installed a heavy current connection at his parking space – and has nothing to do with these changes to the system? Since reportedly all other owners have to reckon with this requirement – now all meters should go to the basement...
5)
Is there any existing rights protection for the individual apartments or must the electrical installation in the apartments also be brought up to the latest standard?
The building is from the 1930s.
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6)
How do you assess the estimated costs – are these market standard or are there alternatives to reduce costs here?
Thank you very much for all constructive tips and advice
Sven