Bauexperte
2015-12-19 10:51:55
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Good morning,
Congratulations!
I will put the cart before the horse for now.
Normally, the detached house - with medium equipment and turnkey, thus without painting and floor coverings - would cost about EUR 280,000; the double garage is not yet included.
“Acquaintances” always think they know better, but in this case she is not entirely wrong; albeit differently than you probably understood.
Building a house *only* according to the Energy Saving Ordinance – which probably will not be uncommon next year – is not bad per se; what doesn’t fit here are – among other things – price and owed service. The BB – if it can even be called that – will cause plenty of debate because it is nonspecific and therefore non-binding. It thus also forms the basis for the contractor to build more or less whatever he deems appropriate.
On the other hand, services that are usually part of the ancillary construction costs are contractually owed. At the same time, a “tempting” amount of own contribution is required and since that is not enough, the materials can be purchased additionally; you will probably have no other choice, as the price asked for these own contributions will certainly not be achievable on the market. If I add these items up, your acquaintance is right: You get a service for the offer price, but certainly not the one you expect, because the price is too high for that. Put more clearly: the price is not market-appropriate for the house size – in any conceivable way; therefore it is a rip-off.
With all due respect – in this case your acquaintance is nuts! Veka is a reputable supplier. Among others, we also install Veka windows and have only had good experiences; the service is also reliable.
What I would be much more interested in is whether you have informed yourself about the provider? I can find nothing except pompous advertising nonsense. And although our office is not far from its headquarters and we have worked intensively in Cologne for a long time, I neither know the company name nor have I heard anything about the registered owner. How is the company structure set up? How long has the company existed (the owner clearly has not heard of imprint obligations and their requirements)? What qualifications does the owner have (he advertises as a master craftsman)? Who owes you the warranty? Who takes over the completion of the new building in the worst case? How is the contract for work and payment plan structured?
In short – if I were you, I would be more than cautious; especially since you have no idea.
Best regards from the Rhineland
we bought a plot of land (600 sqm) in the Düren district a few days ago.
Congratulations!
Here are the key data: The company would build for us: KfW 100, 170 sqm living space (1 1/2 floors) with architect and structural engineering services, earthworks and foundation slab, double garage, Veka triple-glazed windows, electronic shutters throughout the house, sanitary, fireplace, wooden stairs, Wolf air heat pump, electrical package, construction site setup and Bims masonry, clinker bricks.
Costs 227,000 EUR. Own contributions such as painting, tiling, buying interior doors, roof insulation and drywall work are extra.
I will put the cart before the horse for now.
Normally, the detached house - with medium equipment and turnkey, thus without painting and floor coverings - would cost about EUR 280,000; the double garage is not yet included.
Now an acquaintance says that the offer is way too expensive for this price. A KfW 100 house would not be up-to-date and the own contributions are overestimated at this price.
“Acquaintances” always think they know better, but in this case she is not entirely wrong; albeit differently than you probably understood.
Building a house *only* according to the Energy Saving Ordinance – which probably will not be uncommon next year – is not bad per se; what doesn’t fit here are – among other things – price and owed service. The BB – if it can even be called that – will cause plenty of debate because it is nonspecific and therefore non-binding. It thus also forms the basis for the contractor to build more or less whatever he deems appropriate.
On the other hand, services that are usually part of the ancillary construction costs are contractually owed. At the same time, a “tempting” amount of own contribution is required and since that is not enough, the materials can be purchased additionally; you will probably have no other choice, as the price asked for these own contributions will certainly not be achievable on the market. If I add these items up, your acquaintance is right: You get a service for the offer price, but certainly not the one you expect, because the price is too high for that. Put more clearly: the price is not market-appropriate for the house size – in any conceivable way; therefore it is a rip-off.
Can anyone help? Which KfW efficiency class should the house have? Allegedly the heating and the windows are rubbish as well! If someone can help, I would also send them the offer.
With all due respect – in this case your acquaintance is nuts! Veka is a reputable supplier. Among others, we also install Veka windows and have only had good experiences; the service is also reliable.
What I would be much more interested in is whether you have informed yourself about the provider? I can find nothing except pompous advertising nonsense. And although our office is not far from its headquarters and we have worked intensively in Cologne for a long time, I neither know the company name nor have I heard anything about the registered owner. How is the company structure set up? How long has the company existed (the owner clearly has not heard of imprint obligations and their requirements)? What qualifications does the owner have (he advertises as a master craftsman)? Who owes you the warranty? Who takes over the completion of the new building in the worst case? How is the contract for work and payment plan structured?
In short – if I were you, I would be more than cautious; especially since you have no idea.
Best regards from the Rhineland