Long single-story log house, on a long narrow plot

  • Erstellt am 2014-10-24 22:40:44

blockhauspower

2014-10-25 13:55:57
  • #1
Hello, we have a 20cm thick log wall. The calculated U-value is of course not as low, so "good", as with these insulation-only houses, but the perceived comfort is all the higher. With our house, we achieve Kfw70 standard. Since the energy saving ordinance is a mixed calculation, an exterior wall that does not meet the required U-value of 0.24 can be compensated by many other measures.

Best regards

Stefan
 

Legurit

2014-10-25 14:15:27
  • #2
Nevertheless, 20 cm of pine have a U-value of 0.58... but well, I'm not an expert, would just be critical and wouldn’t be surprised by slightly higher heating costs.
 

Steffi33

2014-10-25 20:46:24
  • #3
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Regarding the roof insulation... we have not planned that far yet. But from my point of view, it would make more sense to insulate the roof rather than the intermediate ceiling. After all, we want to use the attic, even if only for storage purposes.

I look forward to further criticism/notes.

Have a nice weekend, wishes Steffi33.
 

Manu1976

2014-10-25 23:24:08
  • #4
Ok, for 2 people with occasional visitors I don't think the house is that bad at all. But regarding your heating: how old is the heating system in your current house/apartment? The heating systems I have encountered so far were all quite "cool". Once it was located in a WC (built in 2000), but the room was not really warm. It was a simple gas heating. Our current air-to-water heat pump and controlled residential ventilation system also fail to warm the utility room even remotely. The only appliance that managed that was our condenser dryer, which has now been replaced by a heat pump dryer. Please also consider age in your planning. A walker or walking aids or a wider bed might be needed. The staircase is definitely sufficient. It is not the main staircase, but only a side staircase. We will have one like that as well, from the upper floor to the attic. Ours will be about 80cm wide and 2.30m long.
 

ypg

2014-10-26 00:09:22
  • #5
Hello Steffi,



Personally, I would worry the least about that, since nowadays you are only allowed to build according to the Energy Saving Ordinance anyway, and the architect will give you the correct dimensions for your plan anyway.



If overnight guests are regularly part of the monthly routine, a guest room is justified. The question is what dimensions this guest room needs to have – usually, you can combine this room with your office stuff.
How old is the grandchild when the house is finished? Will they still be spending the night or much time with you then?
Will a three-person room be enough or might that lead to a planning mistake?
Why don’t you use the wasted attic by planning a guest room in the front and then the storage loft at the back → a few sqm less on the ground floor but a positive use of the attic. A narrow staircase suffices here, narrower than 80 cm.

Home office? For the employer? In the living room? Or a small office corner for private stuff: then a closet room is enough.



Exactly too imperfect, this corner! You can also see it when you watch the video. The video sequence is almost a slap in the face – if you see it positively, it probably has to be classified under “being in love with one’s work.” Or also blindness from familiarity: of course one likes to justify their mistakes if there is no other way.
You enter the room, look at a wall (niche on the left) with disordered, messy utensils and stuff on the walls, have to hold slightly to the right, but then bump into the corner of the room and the closet.



Then the corner, which actually only came about anyway, is superfluous. The child can also sleep in the double bed and does not need a separate bed.



But the grandchild is doing homework at the breakfast table.
No, seriously... a 5-meter long row is not exactly functional, work-wise an L-shape or two facing rows make more sense. Then the lost refrigerator on the other side: you’re not really the cooking type, right? Doesn’t matter, but a kitchen can be designed more functionally (and lovingly).



Well, on the one hand a home office, on the other hand a PC workplace to fiddle around during family life: wouldn’t a laptop be enough? I do it as already said.



The pipes for the rooms gather at the heating and then warm up the surroundings.
A new intact heating system, possibly underfloor heating with closely laid pipes in the bathrooms, should heat all rooms well.
One should not orient oneself on old techniques and move an eyesore into the slow-down room. Alone because of the acoustics.

But I hardly marvel at anything anymore: is it panic from running again through rain to the front door, many plan not to use their expensive front door at all but a sluice passage from the garage to the house? Others fear the aesthetics and favor windowless bathrooms.

It’s a matter of taste whether plaster, clinker brick or wood. Or solid wood. You have to like it. It wouldn’t be my thing.

On 17.5 meters in width you have 11.5... so an L-shape building could also fit.
For me, the corridor would already be way too long until you get to the center of the house (dining room), then the kitchen is in the last corner of the house. Shopping won’t get easier.
And why cross a corridor to get from the bedroom to the toilet?

Then I wonder, since you already have grandchildren: don’t you think about accessibility?
You don’t have to mount grab bars in the shower yet, but you should think about centralizing rooms. All I see is a row of rooms one after the other.

I urge you: think about how your life will look in 10 years and build for YOURSELVES, not for family members!

Best regards, Yvonne
 

kbt09

2014-10-26 00:20:59
  • #6
Yvonne, you really hit the nail on the head. The same thoughts have also crossed my mind, especially - long corridor - bedroom - path to the bathroom - corners in the rooms I would ideally find, purely from the idea of a "long house," the entrance on the broad side, because this allows for a zoning into private and public spaces. Of course, this means ... a slightly longer outer path.
 

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