Kitchen island and dining table - Which layout to choose?

After intensive discussions, we have now decided against an L-shaped kitchen unit. This means that we now have two different options for the kitchen island. What is your opinion on the two variants? What advantages and disadvantages do you see for each?

Info:
- from the hallway into the room there is no door, only a 2m passage with lintel
- dining table size in the small variant 2m, medium variant 3m, long variant 4.5-5m
- distance between the kitchen unit and island 0.95m
- the window on the right side of the plan should not be moved, terrace doors could be moved if absolutely necessary
- layout of the kitchen unit from top to bottom: oven, stove, dishwasher, sink, freezer, refrigerator

Why the kitchen island at all?
1. More workspace
2. Storage space is needed
3. At least a partial separation of the kitchen and the rest of the room

Variant 1 - island on the top of the plan:
- dining table is closer to the windows, which might be nicer
- the workspace is far from the refrigerator, sink, and trash can and might therefore not be used as a workspace
- the first thing you see when coming from the hallway is the kitchen island (which I don’t find very inviting)
- you have plenty of space when entering the room
- table/chairs partially block the terrace doors or make opening and passing through impractical

Variant 3 - island on the bottom of the plan:
- the table seems more accessible to me, also because of the constant opening to the hallway
- dining table approx. 2.5m away from the terrace doors
- possibility to set up a very long table for celebrations

Room dimensions? I consider both island variants not ideal yet .. especially because I don't think the row is ideal. The main work surface is between the sink and the cooktop, and you are currently allowing yourself just 60 cm .. with the dishwasher also in between.

Dimensions of the room? I consider both island variants not yet ideal .. especially because I don't think the row is ideal. The main work area is between the sink and the cooktop and there you are currently allowing yourself only 60 cm .. with the dishwasher in between as well.

The room is 8.4m x 5m. To be precise, there are probably only about 30-40 cm between the sink and the cooktop, because the sink will be wider than 60 (not apparent from the drawing). One could probably swap the freezer and the sink cabinet, but then the sink would also be quite close to the refrigerator.

because the sink will be wider than 60 (not visible from the drawing).

If you mean the draining area, that can also be above the freezer cabinet. Your example shows very well the problem of an almost square dining/cooking area. Why shouldn't it be an L anymore? However, the window on the right side of the plan should be shifted for that .. possibly even completely by the width of the window. Then roughly sketched: Top of the plan: - Refrigerator - Oven cabinet - Freezer base cabinet then dead corner ... here especially storage space for coffee etc. machines - Dishwasher - 60 cm sink cabinet - 40 cm trash under the countertop - 3x90 cm pull-out base cabinet, with the cooktop on the middle one Table then with the end facing the terrace door .. provides lots of space.

The variants with the longer tables are only intended for illustration when visitors come?

Your question is, where the island should be placed?

Is this a new single-family house construction? Are there spatial capacities next door?

Regards

If you measure the drip area m with it, that can also be above the freezer cabinet.

But then we have the dish/sponge problem as right-handers.

Why shouldn’t it be an L anymore?

It brings little added value. In the corner there is a carousel which offers relatively little space. The wall cabinets cannot be reasonably planned around the corner.

Then roughly sketched:

Top of plan:
- Refrigerator
- Oven cabinet
- Freezer base cabinet, then blind corner ... especially here a storage place for coffee etc. machines
- Dishwasher
- 60 cm sink cabinet
- 40 cm trash under the countertop
- 3x90 cm pull-out base cabinets, the cooktop on the middle one

Table then with the short side at the terrace door .. gives plenty of space.

Do you mean like this?



We wanted to open the kitchen somewhat to the room, but we also don’t want to be sitting fully inside the kitchen. A mix of open and separated.