Home security - Alarm systems and presence simulation

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-30 11:55:40

Grym

2017-04-30 11:55:40
  • #1
Again, a presence simulation might be a nice psychological sales trick by the manufacturers, but it's not a sensible measure for hazard prevention. Such a stupid thing won't even deter an occasional criminal. It also seems common practice for many to just ring the doorbell beforehand and pretend to be Jehovah's Witnesses etc. if someone comes to the door. Burglar-resistant windows help against break-ins. Nothing else.

For example, we now have three windows in our living room with internal blinds, and there is simply no mathematically representable automation for these internal blinds. Sometimes I want it dark in one spot while the other two remain up. Sometimes the middle one is lowered so it doesn't glare on the TV, but the other two stay up. But when the TV is off, the middle one doesn't bother either. Or with only moderate sunlight. Or at a different time of day, it's another blind. Sometimes it's also a different blind that is down because someone is playing on the floor there. Depending on whether we currently feel it's cold or warm, direct sunlight is either desired or not desired. Such a thing can be pleasant in winter sometimes and, yes, even in February, way too "blaring."

If you only want to lower in the evening and raise in the morning, then something like that can be automated. However, in our case, the position of the blinds depends on numerous technically immeasurable factors. Of course, it could be different in [house], but I don't suspect so.

Therefore, it would hardly be possible for us to automate something sensibly. But if it's only about raising in the morning and lowering in the evening - that certainly works without problems. And if that's the only requirement, I might automate it.

Of course, the [Raffstoren] get sun and wind sensors. That should be mandatory. We will probably also have a window contact installed for the terrace window [Raffstore]. But a complete automation from A to Z is too cumbersome for me with constant reprogramming and rethinking. After all, things never stay the way they are.
 

11ant

2017-04-30 15:17:56
  • #2


If that person is then well-versed in the Bible, it can end badly ;-)
 

Steffen80

2017-04-30 15:23:31
  • #3


I have two policemen (one of them in investigative service) in the company, and their statements are very clear: presence ranks first in preventing burglary, and of course the simulation is enough for that. There is NO known case here where a burglary occurred despite a simulation. The next point: a visible external signal is also an effective protection. Burglars break into these houses significantly less often.

We go one step further... if there is an alarm with us, all facades are illuminated with a total of 3000 watts ;) In addition, there is 24-hour video surveillance from front & back. The neighbors have to watch out for the sides ;)

The alarm system will also arm/disarm itself automatically. Armed as soon as the house notices that everyone is asleep and disarmed as soon as the first person gets up. Thanks to KNX, something like this can be nicely done today. Of course, this requires a lot of presence detectors and foregoing pets.
 

11ant

2017-04-30 15:36:01
  • #4


Even if you probably mean the red revolving light by "external signal" here: of course, there are also "external signals" that burglars pay attention to: with a yawningly empty double carport, they are rather amused when blinds and reading lamps put on their show. In this respect, a closed garage is practically part of the overall concept ;-)



This giving up is not necessary: many four-legged friends nowadays carry an RFID chip. The home automation can detect that :-)
 

KingSong

2017-04-30 17:04:24
  • #5


If I am so scared that I install something like that, then something else must be wrong...
 

Steffen80

2017-05-01 08:38:05
  • #6
Right..everyone with a certain need for security has a problem. All right. Thanks for the conversation.

(And 3 idiots even like this nonsense)
 

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