Ground floor plan city villa 230 sqm

Hello everyone,

in my last post, you showed me that our ideas, especially with the granny flat in a bungalow that didn’t quite fit the plot, cannot be realized as planned. Therefore, we have decided that it will be a townhouse.

Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 579sqm
Slope: no
Building window, building line and boundary: 23m width by 14m depth. 3m distance to the left and right, carport/garage may be built on the boundary. House in this draft planned at 13m x 11.5m. Maximum of 150sqm may be built over, which we want to fully utilize.
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 4
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hip roof
Style
Orientation: terrace facing south towards the street
Maximum heights/limits: 9m height
Further specifications

Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: townhouse
Cellar, floors: no cellar, 2 floors, attic should be developed later
Number of persons, age: currently 2 adults (33 and 30), one baby, another child possible
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: ground floor approx. 115sqm including approx. 40sqm granny flat, upper floor approx. 115sqm, attic might be developed later, hence the stairs
Office: family use or home office? home office
Overnight guests per year: overnight guests are accommodated in the granny flat, otherwise holiday rentals
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern building style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes, planned
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: later double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/particularities/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be: the granny flat is intended for holiday rentals, open design with open kitchen / living / dining is desired.

House Design
Who designed it: by ourselves
What do you like especially? Why?: the open layout of kitchen / dining / living
What don’t you like? Why? bathroom is very large, the room layout/space feels wasted
Price estimate according to architect/planner: not final yet
Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment: open, for now it is only about the floor plan
Preferred heating technology: air heat pump

If you have to waive, which details/extensions
-you can waive: the sauna, it's more of a “drunken idea”
-you can’t waive: granny flat, open design

Why did the design turn out like it is now? e.g.
Our own (limited) creativity, constantly “improved.”

What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Does this floor plan work in everyday life, are there major flaws, should we swap rooms?

We look forward to your input and ideas. The floor plan reflects our idea for now and has not yet been planned down to the centimeter. Walls and windows can still be moved.

Strictly for understanding: In the old thread, you still had a maximum budget of 470K all in - has that increased significantly or how do you now come to the idea of wanting to build 230 sqm with a granny flat and upscale features (Sauna) at the current prices?

Just for understanding: In the old thread you still had a maximum budget of 470K all in – has that increased significantly or how do you now come to the idea of wanting to build 230 sqm with a granny flat and high-end fittings (sauna) at the current prices?

Among other things, we have spent more on the old house than expected and have been offered support from the family. I saw a sauna online for just under 3,000 euros; I think there are other things in house construction that are more expensive luxuries. Sure, the space costs extra, but we are happy to do without that if it results in a significantly better floor plan.

Sorry ... but this is flawed in every way despite the 230 sqm ... secondary apartment bathroom .. the room is not even 2m wide and you want to place toilet and bathtub opposite each other. The children's rooms are 3m deep tubes and when you enter you head straight for the wardrobes.

And core ... stairs .. 3m length, have you ever dealt with stairs ... check the usual pattern, which is also included in the pinned post . And then the stairs are nicely in the living room. With that, the discussion of the floor plan can already be ended.



And I also read

The attic is supposed to maybe be converted later, hence the stairs

I don’t understand, I don’t see any stairs that could lead from the upper floor to the attic.

Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment: open, it should only be about the floor plan for now

Air castles don’t need to be discussed at all. You see that, right? From your old (bungalow post):

Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment: 470,000 EUR

… and now a plan of approx. 260 sqm… 660,000€ just for the house… Is there even KfW funding for holiday apartments? Why this insistence on a space-consuming granny flat? There’s not much to say about the design: the staircase is way too short, the bathroom is bigger than the living room of a comfort apartment… a bit megalomaniac, all in all ;)

The room is not even 2m wide and you want to put the toilet and bathtub opposite each other.

The bathtub can also be omitted, or the wall shifted a bit; we are not yet happy with the arrangement either.

And the staircase also nicely in the living room

We actually like it very much, which is why there is a small hallway, because we consciously do not want it in the corridor.

I don’t understand, I don’t see a staircase that could lead from the upper floor to the attic.

Staircase on the left of AZ1, basically above the (too short) stairs.

Castle in the air don’t even need to be discussed. You see that, right?

I completely understand, but our financial situation has improved; however, I want to focus here only on the floor plan.

Why this insistence on a space-consuming granny flat?

Important for us because of the family coming from far away; spatial separation for a longer visit is simply very important to us. Additionally, the option of renting it out.

Staircase is way too short, bathroom is bigger than the living room of a comfort apartment… kind of delusional, all this

I hoped the staircase would fit, since the example assumes a higher floor height. I will try it with a bigger staircase. We definitely don’t want to appear delusional. It just happened that the bathroom became that large and still fit the sauna. But it doesn’t have to be; if a smarter room layout results, then gladly a smaller bathroom.