Forward-looking floor plan design upper floor

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-02 20:32:31

ypg

2020-12-07 12:09:29
  • #1


When reading it, one only gets the feeling that the conversion is a very high priority, without considering that you yourselves still want to live in it.
 

pagoni2020

2020-12-07 14:55:52
  • #2
Sorry, but I get the feeling that criticism, valuable experiences, or even other ideas are generally not seen as an opportunity, but rather as an attack. Time and again we are told that in the end, of course, you were right about all of it, no matter how strange, concerning the travels (what would the infant have said about malaria or the like?), the stairs, or elsewhere... YOUR idea was always the right one and you showed it to all the "screamers"... well then. In your environment, people apparently "scream" at you more often, as you write... I would urgently change something about your environment or else... oops... no. Your result from the thread and the sincere effort of some participants here is now this... ...-how could it have been otherwise :D ...and even with two of them. And yes, we all know here that everyone should and may build as they want, absolutely even! Nope, just freedom in the mind and some willingness to learn... Countless before you have implemented such things sensibly and wonderfully, sometimes with fewer possibilities—or do you really think your living situation is unique? Architects/interior architects are exactly for that, and they could also implement it well if you were ever allowed to be "right" for a moment or if the experiences of others could be seriously and openly considered. But "being right" is more of a hindrance in that. THAT is exactly what you obviously DO NOT want to know; you are probably more looking for pats on the back! But your published building plan doesn’t fit this... although I forgot... Sorry. That is even well-known here; precisely for that reason, one fills out the questionnaire properly and thoroughly at the beginning, which others have put a lot of effort into here, so that the surveyed members can better imagine the respective situation. Inflating or shrinking the living room furniture later on to actual measurements and only last informing that the building permit has long been available... uff. Why then the initial question: The apparent reason for the sparse number of reactions to your thread may also be that people like to receive proper preliminary information from the OP if they are supposed to spend their time on it. Sloppy and thus incorrect furniture dimensions, "concealment" of the already available building permit, etc., coupled with partly dismissive phrasing, apparently take away people's desire to engage more closely and help... although... ...-how could it have been otherwise I forgot... Screaming again...? I'll be honest; I find your thread exhausting and really useless. It is full of self-praise and also arrogance despite a series of openly revealed weaknesses in the thought process; people who made a real effort for you and from whose knowledge/experience one could actually learn something are rather brushed off... if one wanted to. For a young person and an absolute building novice, that's remarkable... From the start, I felt uneasy about your phrasing and also the already apparent handling of the topic of the fortunately still living "grandma," whose property this apparently was lifelong. Since we ourselves had even a foreign grandma in the house until she sadly died at 102, and later also our own parents in the house, your mindset and your overbold wording upset me when I imagine the whole thing as you quite openly and clearly describe it. During her lifetime, grandma’s house is already mentally and officially certified destined for demolition, the excavators are already waiting impatiently, and one heroically takes on the risk of grandma living longer. Not even a few quotation marks around the word "risk" can be spared from the hectic building planning stress... well, life is harsh, grandma... Maybe that’s also where the people who “scream” in your environment come from, whose ability for empathy does not end at the wallet. It practically shakes me when I read what you (as a son-in-law) naturally express while grandma is still there. Just imagine having grandchildren and their partners living in your own 100-year-old house, who have been calmly planning your death for years and even heroically take the "dangers and risks" upon themselves that you will break the age record. Not THAT grandma lives is the advantage, but "even though" she lives, namely that the money increases in this difficult time... oh dear. ...what luck for your "risk"... That’s also how the house is planned and that is how it will be. EVERYONE gets the house and also the living room they deserve... Therefore... happy house building :D Maybe I am alone with this opinion, but a forum lives from the diversity of opinions, and I don't want any descendants to have an approved building plan for demolition and the construction of a possible "alien" during my lifetime and also publicly babble about the "risk" of my long life. But as the OP points out, you can extend the permit... there just was no time to wait, grandma... time is pressing... Such an answer should not bother you since apparently your own words do not bother you; we shall see...
 

Buffycat

2020-12-07 16:16:57
  • #3
@pagoni 2020 Very presumptuous words when you don't know in what condition Grandma "lives".
 

Bertram100

2020-12-07 17:04:10
  • #4
well, you are writing about the risk that grandma lives even longer. Of course, one can hope that someone dies quickly so that the suffering is shortened. But you are writing this here only in the light and in the name of a house building plan that suits you. It doesn't matter at all now to add grandma's condition as an argument.
 

Buffycat

2020-12-07 20:36:03
  • #5
@ pagoni2020

Did you understand that my questions do not refer to the current floor plan at all but to the possible alternative (image 6) in the very distant future? That’s why I’m not filling out the questionnaire and not providing any measurements. Honestly, I don’t think you do.
Why on earth do you read a thread that is useless and even exhausting for you and then go to the trouble of writing such a comprehensive reply? Especially if you consider me resistant to advice?

You wouldn’t want your descendants already planning whether you are still around, right? Like the motto: as long as I breathe, things will be done MY way?
People can be so different. Grandma explicitly wanted it when we bought the house and she was still capable of grasping things mentally. The huge house was not only a joy for her. Yes, such things exist.

Building planning stress for us? Not at all! It says above that we see it as an advantage to have a lot of time.

Yes, my mistake was not putting the word “risk” in quotation marks. True, it sounds callous. But read the whole sentence. It says further, the probability seems extremely low to us. That certainly wouldn’t be the case if she were sitting happily here in the armchair.

About shouting: it was actually meant as a metaphor for getting upset. Yes, in my family and circle of friends there (currently unfortunately not) is often loud and intense discussion, especially when it comes to very important things like building a house or distant travel. No, I am not often shouted at. There is lively exchange going on.

After your overall assessment of my person, do you really think I am here to collect praise from completely unknown people?

By the way, I don’t care how many people read this, it only needs to be one person giving me valuable tips, that alone is completely enough for me. And yes, there were valuable tips for me.

It has become clear to me that words on the internet can come across completely differently than they are actually meant.
I may formulate factually (my time is limited) or even emotionlessly, but in reality I am anything but that.
 

WilderSueden

2020-12-07 20:42:43
  • #6
As far as floor plan design is concerned, I may be a beginner. But in the last few weeks, I have quite realized that there is no such thing as "planning only this area." You really have to think on the scale of the entire house. Otherwise, you end up with things that don't fit together.
 

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