Floor plan of a new gable roof house, 145 sqm, 9 x 11.5 m, shortly before building application

  • Erstellt am 2021-01-11 16:09:15

FionaWT

2021-01-11 16:09:15
  • #1
Hello,

we are planning our new building on our 558 sqm plot (new development area, neighboring buildings unknown).
Unfortunately, the plot is not ideally shaped; it is trapezoidal, and according to the development plan, we have to build back 5 m from the street, which would leave our building window only 8.74 m wide. We have now planned 9 m width and are therefore retreating 7.76 m from the street in total. We actually find this too far back but otherwise cannot manage the floor plan.
The planned building volume is now 9 x 11.5 m. We have concerns that the hallway and kitchen will still be too narrow and long.
We would also like larger children's rooms but are not quite sure how that should fit.
We would appreciate ideas and suggestions for our planning; this is our first time building, and we are sure we are overlooking some things.

[Bebauungsplan/Einschränkungen]
Plot size: 558 sqm
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building window, building line and boundary: 5 m to the street, 3 m to neighbors
Edge development: garage and parking spaces
Number of parking spaces: 2 per dwelling unit
Number of floors: 1.5 floors
Roof shape: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation: southeast garden, main entrance in the west
Maximum heights/limits: TH 5.20 m, FH 9.50 m

[Anforderungen der Bauherren]
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor with knee wall 1.50 m
Number of people, age: two adults (37 and 31 years), two toddlers (3 and 1 year old)
Space requirement on the ground floor: cloakroom, WC with shower, open kitchen, dining, living area
Space requirement on the upper floor: bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, two children's rooms
Space requirement in the basement: utility room, storage room, sports room (basement higher than usual), office/guest room
Office: family use or home office?: office in the basement for occasional home office use
Guests per year: 1-2 (sofa bed in office)
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
Main entrance should face the street; entrance in the north would be possible but due to the building window only 3 m to the neighbor and the driveway to the garage, everything might be a bit tight

[Hausentwurf]
Who designed it: own design revised and drawn by the general contractor
What do you particularly like? Why?: kitchen is desired facing the street, the open kitchen-living-dining area is very much liked, large cloakroom desired, many windows desired, kitchen definitely with island
What do you not like? Why?: long hallway is not really liked, kitchen and hallway too narrow due to the narrow building window at the front
Price estimate according to the construction company: €440,000 without plot and without garage (fixed price), of course also without exterior work
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: €500,000 excluding exterior work, land and garage
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump

[Wenn Ihr verzichten müsst,] on which details/extensions
-can you do without: fireplace, roof windows, bay window
-can you not do without: corner glazing, wooden floor everywhere except bathroom

[Warum ist der Entwurf so geworden, wie er jetzt ist?]
adapted to the plot, kitchen should face the street, dining room and living room facing the garden

[Was ist die wichtigste/grundlegende Frage zum Grundriss in 130 Zeichen zusammengefasst?]
Hallway too long and passage by the stairs to kitchen/dining area too narrow?
Kitchen and dining area too long and narrow? For that the living room too small?
Kitchen could be wider if the stair landing is omitted, but then cloakroom and WC become narrower.
Children's rooms too small and sufficient windows there?
 

pagoni2020

2021-01-11 17:11:08
  • #2
So......in principle, I really like your floor plan and in my opinion it only needs a few corrections, as I have seen less interesting ones from general contractors. You should definitely also mark the actual furniture dimensions. I find that important, especially in the dining room but equally in the living room, to see if you really want to furnish/sit like that. I would probably tweak the windows a bit, depending on my lifestyle. Maybe I would shorten the living room wall a bit and possibly move the TV further into the corner, because you probably won’t watch TV as diagonally as it is currently drawn. I would also base the decision on whether I want a glass wall behind the sofa or if I prefer to change something there; for example, the dining area could be largely glazed towards the living room and the living room have less glass/sunlight or maybe no floor-to-ceiling window, so the sofa can be placed against the wall. Maybe the kitchen wall to the hallway could also be a bit shorter.....hmm...., although without a pantry you do need storage space. But I don’t currently see an ugly corridor there. In my opinion, the kitchen is large enough at 15 sqm and depending on space requirements, you can still vary with windows/work surfaces. Where the sliding element is currently at the bottom of the plan could be where I place the large Liebherr side-by-side fridge or similar, and the windows elsewhere. But those are just little tweaks and depend on personal taste/needs. I like glass but maybe a bit more wall space here wouldn’t hurt for work surfaces/design. In the basement I would at least provide a toilet....who knows what life will bring. With high probability it will eventually be a youth room or similar and then you’ll be glad if at least the water/drain connections are available. I also basically like the upper floor, though I would like to have 60 cm of space behind the room door for a wardrobe or similar if possible. The children’s rooms are definitely not too small, I find 15 sqm great. I can’t see the window width exactly, but I probably wouldn’t take floor-to-ceiling windows for that either because children/teenagers always rearrange as they grow up, so better wider windows, possibly two-winged with about 160 cm. I like the dressing room less, such a small room with a door....that feels squeezed in. I would prefer an open solution or assign that space directly to the bedroom; then the roof window wouldn’t be needed either. If I estimate correctly, 9 m of wardrobes are planned in the bedroom and dressing room? I would adjust that to MY lifestyle. The bathroom is nice as it is, of course can be done differently, and if necessary it could also work with 2-3 sqm less. I think it will be a nice house, the floor plan feels fluid to me.
 

11ant

2021-01-11 17:30:16
  • #3

Well, I would definitely adjust the floor plan rather than the location.

I suspect a "work" of speech "recognition" :-)
 

pagoni2020

2021-01-11 17:39:29
  • #4
Nope, rather the language usage of a hermit. Ok, other suggestions as a replacement: "like", "practical", "well proportioned", "harmonious"....just my insignificant impression. In short: With such a floor plan and the corresponding family situation, I could feel comfortable. So ok, it's all good, I fear justified criticism......I like it that way, find it really great, awesome dude
 

Climbee

2021-01-11 17:47:35
  • #5
I can't quite share the enthusiasm.

If you don't want to be too far from the street, I would deliberately plan a narrower house – but then longer. There are really good examples of that. However, the room layout will no longer correspond so much to the usual standard like the house you are currently planning. Educate yourselves a bit to see if that would be something for you.
I remember a dream house (BR Fernsehen, surely still available in the media library) where a very narrow house was planned on a plot in Munich. If I recall correctly, the house was only 6m wide, but very clever. Definitely take a look! On the BR website, you can usually also find the floor plans of the houses presented.

Another option would be to plan a narrow building at the front and widen the house toward one side at the back, so a slight L-shape as a base.

I will never understand why someone wants to build a cookie-cutter house that fits the classic rectangular plot but not a specially shaped plot and then wonders why the planning is just so-so and doesn’t really fit.

If I see that right, the master bedroom is in the south, but child 1 is in the northwest. I never find that successful. You can swap that.
The two slanted doors are relics from the ’80s (that was fashionable back then!) but here I see no plausible reason for this architectural misstep.
The doors are planned at 76cm (bathroom) and 88cm (bedroom), but 217cm high – do you really want that? Those are tiny loopholes. I would always plan 1m for a door. Otherwise, with the height, it looks somehow disproportionate.
The walk-in closet doesn’t make sense as it is either. Please note: you allow yourself more than 21 sqm in total for bedroom and walk-in closet, but in my opinion the bedroom is too large – you just sleep in there, the walk-in closet will be tight. Then another cupboard in the bedroom – total misplanning.
If the external shell is to remain as it is, put the bedroom where child 1 is, put the walk-in closet in front of it through which the bedroom is accessed. Less sqm for the bedroom, more for the walk-in closet and then put all the wardrobes in the walk-in closet.

Why is the garage set so far back? Do you enjoy shoveling snow in winter so much? If the building plan doesn’t say otherwise, I would move it forward and rather plan a parking space in front of the house (you have to be 5m from the street anyway).
Are you allowed to plan the parking space in front of the garage? That would not be permitted here – every parking space (whether garage or parking spot) has to be freely accessible. They can’t be one behind the other. Not all municipalities require that, but you should check beforehand.

Kitchen facing the street: why? I always prefer the kitchen near the terrace – in my opinion, that makes more sense.
 

Ysop***

2021-01-11 17:47:51
  • #6
I like it too. It is often recommended here to plan the kitchen next to the terrace, so to swap the living room and kitchen here. For the kitchen planning, I gladly refer you to the [KI-Forum]. The kitchen experts are there :)
 

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