Floor plan design city villa 140-150 sqm 2 children feedback

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-28 21:46:11

xMisterDx

2022-12-28 23:56:45
  • #1
You always want to go through 2 doors and around several corners to get to the pantry, carrying cans and jars on your arm?

The utility room is at least 4m² too big, rather 6. But then there's no space for coats in the hallway. Do you always want to hang them in the utility room?
Also consider, everything in the utility room has to be placed against the wall somewhere. In the middle, you then have a dance floor that’s useless to you.

Upstairs, the solution of the dressing room over the hallway seems silly to me somehow. For me, a dressing room should be accessible from the bedroom.

In the bathroom, the distance between the sink and the WC partition wall seems very narrow. Because of the one window facing north, the toilet niche, in particular, becomes as dark as a cave.

In the children’s room, the 2 floor-to-ceiling double windows are stylish but severely restrict the otherwise large room.
Bed, desk, wardrobe, shelf. Where is all that supposed to go?
In the end, the desk will stand in front of a floor-to-ceiling window. Such a pity.

Are you sure that home office will never be a topic? Because 5m² is very little for that.
You could also build the dressing room instead.

Put the bed on the north wall, use the 5m² room as a dressing room, and the old dressing room as an office/guest room?

Because of the window and the chimney in the current dressing room, you can only fit a 3m 60cm deep closet inside, opposite, because of the window, only dressers.
That’s not much... for so much space.
 

11ant

2022-12-29 00:58:28
  • #2
First of all, congratulations on the non-square floor plan - now take the next brave step and throw the idea of symmetry even further overboard. Another praise goes to the terrace doors - here you cleverly defied the trend that lift-and-slide doors are "mandatory." But I also see plenty of botched work: fantasy measurements (which notoriously create sloppy work pockets) up to nonsensical 11.5 cm partial sections of the 17.5 cm wall in the middle of the ground floor; also in the utility room and in the bedroom at the wall to the dressing room, for example, I would like the architect to demonstrate where light switches or roller shutter control switches are supposed to go there. The tread width of the stairs is designed for clothing size 36/38, and you can only carry the laundry basket lengthwise there. I can well understand the question marks behind the architect's professional experience (are you sure that’s without quotation marks?). Lightweight walls on the upper floor are generally often a good choice, but I miss, for example, in the bathroom the consideration of the installations, and also a laundry chute in the bathroom is not seen again in the utility room (?). I read a chimney at this point in the living room as an indication of a fireplace wish - I have already commented on this often enough here. Is the plot really flat, 32.0 cm below sea level? - The sections A_A and B_B would not have hurt to show, and also more "cutout" of the plot. The hatch to the attic is certainly not the only thing missing at this design stage - overall I see a typical "preliminary design with deceptively 'precise' dimensioning."
 

hanghaus2023

2022-12-29 10:28:56
  • #3
Why does the architect make so many mistakes? The north arrow really isn't that difficult to draw correctly. The drawn plot also doesn't match your system. According to your sketch, there is a building envelope. Then presumably also a development plan. Just show it.
 

K a t j a

2022-12-29 13:37:48
  • #4
I think you should take another look at your budget and your property before going into detail. Please do not be fooled by bait offers. At 400K, I currently only see a house up to about 140 sqm. Since you are already doubting the budget concerning the garage, you might want to plan smaller in principle. Because it always gets more expensive than expected.

If someone has never built a house or has no other experience, I hardly trust them to do self-management at all. Experience in house building is not something you can just read up on the internet and casually handle on the side. No, a general contractor or architect charges accordingly for their services and it is worth it! General contractors are in my opinion somewhat cheaper and often offer a fixed price you can calculate with. I have a healthy skepticism about architects when it comes to the actual cost estimation; it is not uncommon for it to become more expensive in the end – but these are subjective experiences and vary greatly on a case-by-case basis. However, they almost always offer better overall concepts.

If you want to contribute a lot of your own work or like to organize yourself, so-called shell houses might be suitable if you can come to terms with that. Basically, you can only save if you know what you are doing very well and could practically build your own house. This applies to very few people and is not recommended for beginners.

So far, I read that you have a standard plot with nearly optimal orientation and no slope. On such plots, you can basically buy a house "off the shelf." Many floor plans from the catalogs of prefab house suppliers could suit you. The times when you could save a lot here are over, but in my opinion, they still offer the great advantage of almost 100% planning certainty (only for the house, of course!). Have the catalogs sent to you so that your mailbox overflows. But be careful – Bauleistungsbeschreibung is the magic word and it is different for each one! In addition, you immediately have a whole bunch of proposals and can approach your preferred floor plan in this way.
 

xMisterDx

2022-12-29 14:04:09
  • #5
Oh, just saw it now. Budget 350-400 kEUR all in, excluding land?
At the lower limit, I'm already landing with my typical house 152m² from a well-known discount general contractor and that at the 2021 price.

With that budget and the desired house size, there’s no more room for free planning by the architect or even individual contracting.

The Flair 152 from Town & Country currently costs from 300,000 EUR in the cheapest sales region. With additional building incidentals, you’re already at 350,000 EUR even if you take no extras at all. Then the furnishings, and *voila*, you end up at 400,000 and thus at the upper limit of the budget.

Pick a nice typical house that you like, where you don’t have to adapt too much, and build that.
Advantage:
These houses are built hundreds of times and are generally highly optimized, both in terms of costs and everyday usability.
Oh, and:
Get used to the idea that with that budget, it probably won’t be 150m², more like 125.
 

11ant

2022-12-29 15:01:24
  • #6

Being a bargain hunter or a "Swabian housewife" is not enough when tendering; especially first-time builders can easily pay twenty percent more simply due to awkward formulations, mainly with apparent lump-sum agreements. The accuracy of architects' cost estimates depends directly on their practical experience; nothing is more worthless than outdated experience. There is no absolutely sure indicator for architects who deviate strongly from planned costs, but a strong hint is when the architect only offers service phases 1 to 4 (then, at least for a flat and otherwise uncomplicated plot, he is not measurably superior to a draftsman). Whoever is not satisfied with saving twenty percent can easily increase expenses by thirty percent by also carrying out the self-management as individual contracts ;-)


That's right, I or other independent building consultants can accompany you on how to do such a thing.

Uh, yes and no! – For laypeople, this is rather dangerous (similar to visiting model house centers); it mostly leads to being overloaded with too many wishes relative to the house and budget size as well as with floor plans misunderstood as crafting templates. It would also be highly counterproductive to realize a building proposal from Huberbau’s catalog with the construction service description of Meierbau from Schulzebau: that would be more expensive than genuine individual planning and offer a lot of, unfortunately, mostly evaluated risks for problem areas. By the way, the biggest catalogs come from the big names, while regional owner-run construction companies are usually the much better choice. What you can really learn well from the discount builders, however, are the prices: even under ideal conditions, you will never manage to beat those.
 

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