Financing framework Hamburg: new construction on own land, 3 children, civil servant A13

  • Erstellt am 2025-10-20 17:12:35

Teimo1988

2025-10-24 19:54:59
  • #1
I agree that in other forums (e.g. green) the tone is significantly rougher. This forum actually seems very constructive to me, as long as you fit into the target group of the forum (home buyers or those having a house built). The fact that some participants here are rather direct is probably also due to the fact that they have already explained the points in 1000 other threads and would probably be happy if thread starters would first search extensively, read, and reflect.
 

chand1986

2025-10-24 20:06:29
  • #2

Although I am not directly addressed, I meant the difference between descriptive and evaluative.

Might be because of this:

That is exactly the opposite of the necessary internet etiquette. I have to pay the least attention to the sensitivities of people whose sensitivities I already know. On the internet, toward strangers, I try to be especially fact-oriented.
You said in an exaggerated way that if I am somewhere where no one knows or recognizes me, I can finally behave badly. What an advantage, this refuge for my opinions that I can’t just throw out privately. That makes no sense, in my OPINION.

1) Direct. Short. Fact-related. Reasoning. Clear no. Direct reference to an error. That’s okay.

2) Evaluative. Personal. Unobjective. Opinion instead of reasoning. That’s not okay. Even if content-wise it doesn’t differ much from 1).

P.S.: I also sometimes write according to 2). But only when someone has to take it who previously, in my opinion, has dished it out. But the OP here has not dished it out yet.
 

Trentatre

2025-10-24 20:44:31
  • #3


That says it all.

In my eyes, a negligent and extremely dangerous attitude. Every educated person should especially in times like these be aware of the risk potential that such handling of anonymous digital platforms entails.
 

Haus123

2025-10-24 21:15:27
  • #4


Wrong. Anyone who wants to hear sincere feedback unfortunately receives it far too rarely from friends. Simply because people are too close to each other and don’t want to hurt one another. Besides, people are often far too close in content, which also excludes helpful input that broadens one’s own horizon. Strangers can give feedback much more directly and openly.

I don’t care about your personal accusations. Just this much: not everything that doesn’t fit your worldview comes from “uneducated” people. Aside from the fact that I don’t judge a person by whether they are educated or uneducated but by their elan and esprit, you don’t have to count yourself among the “good” people just because you think you are more “educated” than others.

By the way: I know even more people in private life who live very similarly to the OP. Interestingly, all civil servants. They get the same statements from me. “Work-shy” is truly not an insult but a polite description of the OP’s attitude towards paid employment.
 

chand1986

2025-10-24 21:33:32
  • #5

You confuse sincere feedback with your personal feeling.

In full-time work? Why? Do you mean additional part-time engagement is not work because it is not paid? Or did you not want to accuse the woman with 3 plus x children of being work-shy, although you actually mean exactly her?

Describing that your above-quoted approach to anonymous platforms does not show an extended education in this field is not

but is also only a polite description for selling bad behavior as valuable feedback. I find this especially often with non-civil servants *irony off*.
 

Haus123

2025-10-24 22:01:18
  • #6
Do I seriously have to quote the OP with his attitude towards paid work here? That was very clear, and he even openly admitted it himself. I also deliberately did not call him and his wife "lazy." His aversion is explicitly towards paid work. Nevertheless, his family could afford a lot more if paid work were not excluded, at least until the first child eventually loses eligibility for the child supplement (which happens sometime between 18-25 depending on career path). Volunteering is all well and good, but in excess, you have to be able to afford it or else live modestly. He even wants that, but will the children see it that way in 10 years?
 
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