Elero TempoTel2 - Is channel switching possible DURING the learning process?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-01 14:02:48

Matthias1004

2023-05-01 14:02:48
  • #1
Hello Forum,

we will replace 11 windows/patio doors (existing house 1980 / timber frame construction) with 11 x triple-glazed windows including electric roller shutters + front door.

Our house has 2 floors.
One window has already been replaced, the bathroom was completely renovated last year.

IT IS ABOUT THE CONTROL OF THE roller shutters.

I have looked into 3 options.

1
Proposal from the window company:
Radio tubular roller shutter with wall attachment
We already have such a package in the bathroom / Elero

2
Homematic with LAN access point and actuators.

3
Classic wiring with e.g. Jung push button and normal tubular motor [ 4-core ]

My wife insists that it is reliable and easy to use.
So do I, of course.

Therefore, I tend towards the 4-core wired push button at the roller shutter [ classic but simple ]

Sorry, but if at 60 years old you no longer want to get up from the couch at all, that is the sure way to worse health.

BUT:
FOR ME, it would be thought further ahead to be able to operate all roller shutters on the 1st floor from below (ground floor) - in case of an "accident" like a hip or something.

For this case, Homematic or TempoTel2 hand transmitter would be an option.

When I asked the company whether the push button can be operated IMMEDIATELY after connecting it according to the Homematic actuator wiring, the answer was:
Probably yes, or about 80%.
So for 100%, you have to add or first learn ALL roller shutters....via smartphone...

I always thought that the up/down cables etc. would be passed through to the push button so that the roller shutter could be easily raised and lowered immediately and independently BEFORE learning the actuator.
Apparently not...

SO, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TEMPOTEL2:

I read the manual but found nothing about whether I can assign a channel to the respective roller shutter DURING the learning of e.g. 5 roller shutters that are on ONE fuse, or whether this needs to be separated later or how?
For example roller shutters 1-3 upstairs channel 1, roller shutter 4 -> channel 2, roller shutter 5 -> channel 3, and so on.

I understand that I can learn multiple receivers on one channel.

But at what point does the channel assignment take place?

These are important decisions that have to be made and we only want to do it once.....

The wall will be channeled open (wood!) or the cable will be laid to the outside in the roller shutter, because we also want to insulate the facade afterwards.
Of course, the electrician will do that...

Maybe someone here has experience with the Elero TempoTel2 radio hand transmitter?

Many thanks and have a nice 1st of May,
Matthias
 

Araknis

2023-05-01 15:10:18
  • #2
How good is the Wi-Fi coverage in the house and how familiar are you with "modern" Wi-Fi/smartphone stuff? Then Shellys would be a good and inexpensive solution that works reliably. The wiring would then be the classic variant 3 with push buttons instead of switches and the Shelly module connected in parallel behind the push button. Operation then works as usual in the classic way or also with the smartphone, if desired. You should then have deep boxes at the push button location.
 

Matthias1004

2023-05-01 16:35:34
  • #3
Actually good, I have a Roon server running on a Linux basis and high-end audio and so on.
The WLAN coverage from the Fritzbox is sufficient even without a repeater to the 1st floor and even to the basement to the Viessmann condensing boiler via app.

I just put a repeater in the stairwell because of the Viessmann connection.

I could do the same on the 1st floor.

I have heard about the Shelly modules here and elsewhere.
They are highly praised.

Sounds good that the operation is "classic" via a switch and the operation via smartphone is optional but supposed to work well.

Is there a Shelly app and would that be doable for my wife who is less smartphone and IT savvy?

Or do you have to use a third party like bubble for music?

What is your experience with electricians when you mention Shelly to them?

My first electrician offered me the new Bluetooth Mesh from Jung (first version(!)).

The second at least knew Homematic.

Thanks first of all for the Shelly tip :)
Which app and can it do the essentials you need....

Does each Shelly have its own IP, so that 11 devices show up in the Fritzbox that all want to be controlled via WLAN?
Usually, it is only a few seconds per shutter per day.

I’ll ask my second electrician if he could wire the modules behind the switches.

Can you recommend a link where the functionality of the Shellies can be well understood.

I haven’t found an app...

Thanks to you :)
 

Araknis

2023-05-02 09:23:47
  • #4
Yes, Shelly Cloud and Shelly Smart something (that one is brand new, I haven’t tried it yet) in the app store of your choice. It should appear right at the top when searching for "Shelly." Don’t be fooled by the name; the Shellys can all work without the cloud if desired. Without the cloud, only operation outside your WLAN, the connection to Alexa and her friends, as well as some automation functions are lost. It depends. Some are interested in things they don’t make money from, others not. Deep boxes behind the switches are important. Sure, because otherwise he only does Jung. "At least knowing" is not enough if he is supposed to set it up. The Shelly app. Yes, but that doesn’t matter, or is your network already over 200 devices? Shelly website, first result when googling. Unfortunately, one may never under any circumstances link anything here, otherwise the forum explodes.
 

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