bluMartin ventilation system - experiences? / questions

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Bauexperte

2016-04-28 22:57:42
  • #1
Hello Sabine,

although both are decentralized systems, they fundamentally differ from each other.

With the Lunos system, you have one or two wall openings in each room (depending on the room size); the system can only be switched by floor and unfortunately no longer by room.

Costs with heat recovery and for a house size of 180 sqm are approx. TEUR 10. Noise development is negligible at the lowest level.

With the bluMartin, you have an external unit per floor, the further distribution is in the ceiling.

Costs for 180 sqm are approx. TEUR 12; heat recovery is included as standard. You do not hear it. The system is (so far) the only one of its kind certified as Passive House.

HTH

Rhineland greetings
 

Dietmar B

2019-10-05 16:59:55
  • #2
Experience report bluMartin freeAir100

For all builders who are dealing with the topic of ventilation systems, our experiences with the ventilation system bluMartin freeAir100. House: built in 2015, timber frame construction, 175 sqm, 2 floors, pellet heating, solar system, photovoltaic system, decentralized ventilation system bluMartin freeAir100 (3 main units each with one secondary room connection), KFW 55. We decided on bluMartin freeAir100 because, in our opinion, it combines the advantages of a central and a decentralized system and due to the passive house certification. Result: It is worth mentioning positively that the system is able to dehumidify the rooms. Especially in the laundry room, all the moisture generated from drying laundry is expelled outside. According to the manufacturer's analysis software, the heat recovery is also high. The air quality is not sufficient. Without open windows, we perceive the air in closed rooms as stale after a few hours. Extensive measurements (device: CO2 monitor by Dostmann) showed that the CO2 concentration in the morning was between 1500 ppm and partly over 2000 ppm. There are no legal requirements for private houses. Recommendations (e.g. Pettenkofer value of 1000 ppm) are, however, exceeded. As a result, we have to tilt the windows in the bedrooms and regularly open windows in other rooms for ventilation. The units are audible even at the lowest level. For sleeping, they are too loud for us in the rooms with main units. In the rooms with secondary connection, the ventilation is barely audible at the lowest setting. The longer the filter is in use, the louder the noise develops. I also switch off the system when reading. The filters must be changed at least once a year or when the maintenance indicator appears. In our case, the error message "Filter Error" always appears well before one year has passed. The required set is only available via Amazon and costs us 96 euros for three units in total (as of 10/2019). Meanwhile, the manufacturer has fortunately dispensed with the aluminum frame, which improves the ecological balance. After four years of use, all three units had to be sent to the manufacturer for repair work. The customer receives shipping cartons for this purpose. For two devices, the error message "Filter Error" did not disappear even after filter replacement. The third device switched off by itself. (When trying to turn it on again, I received an electric shock on the main switch, which is made of metal! The main circuit board had to be replaced.) The repair costs, despite generous discounts, were more than 500 euros. Conclusion: If faced with the decision again, we would either choose a central ventilation system or dispense with it entirely, even though we are aware of the problem of ventilation in airtight construction. The costs for the system in the amount of 12,000 euros net (2015) could, for example, be invested in other energy-saving or energy-generating measures. We would not choose the product bluMartin freeAir100 again.

Best regards Dietmar
 

bluMartin GmbH

2019-10-10 18:09:14
  • #3
Dear Mr. B.,

Thank you very much for your report. After we met you in 2015, I am writing to you personally. I am very distressed that we have not yet been able to satisfy you as a customer.

Even back then, I pointed out the somewhat unfortunate installation. The fact is that the maximum allowed cable length for 75mm flexible cables according to the installation manual is 2.5m and 10m for double cable routing. When long cables (with high friction resistance) are connected, our volume flow constant fans respond with increased speeds. This, in turn, leads to earlier occurrence of filter messages and increased noise generation.

To improve the distribution of air in your building, the installer offered you the free installation of our bypass valve at that time. You also did not accept our offer to install the extremely noise-reducing premium cover.

I am convinced that the installation of the mentioned components would be very helpful for you. If you wish, we would be happy to support you and would be very pleased to soon count you among our satisfied customers.

Thank you very much and best regards

Bernhard Martin Managing Director bluMartin GmbH
 

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