Billing of self-produced electricity for underfloor heating

I immediately thought of a rent including heating costs. Why not? You can convert the heating value to the square meters and create an attractive rent. It should be a win-win situation for both - tenant and landlord. As the benefactor says: "Go ahead, I have enough of it for the two of us."

I do that too. But in the simple version ;). I just rent fully inclusive (flat rate) including hot water, heating, and electricity.

If I had the impression that the tenants would spend extravagantly, I would want to respond differently.

It’s about a granny flat: you have a different, namely more direct, relationship to the tenant compared to a tenant 20 km away in an apartment block.

But then the risk remains with you that the additional costs will increase significantly and you are not allowed to make an adjustment. The incentive for the tenant to be economical is also gone.

And if it is exceeded? Then you're out of luck...

A flat rate is always a double-edged sword.

He must have thought through his approach (which I actually like) multiple times as a landlord. Or does he need your commercial expertise? I always find such posts "great." The main thing is that someone vented here again...

Flat rates in plural? Overruns sanctioned? So no flat rent and no flat ancillary costs either :rolleyes:

Why not just implement a rent increase? You surely know the electricity the tenant’s underfloor heating draws from the grid or could install a meter. You recover the "rest" through an increased basic rent.

Yes, plural. Flat rates once for cold water & once for electricity (regardless of whether for heat pump/heating, hot water, or household electricity) It is still flat, within the generous limits I can cover with the rent. Great for the tenant because they don’t have to "fear" back payments. And for me it’s simple and financially it also fits well (fortunately I don’t have to watch every last euro, which wouldn’t be fun for me in real life either ;-) At some point I will have to compensate inflation and the resulting loss of purchasing power with a moderate increase. But since the monthly payment also effectively decreases because of this, not by much. Only a small difference that I cannot offset by higher income. And if the difference stays within limits, I won’t increase either, it’s too much "effort" for me ;-)

His approach (which I also find good, by the way) he must have had as a landlord several times.

I do not understand the sentence.

Or does he need your commercial knowledge? I always find such posts "great". The main thing is that something is left here again...

No, he does not need my commercial knowledge. I definitely trust with that. But I wanted to contribute something legally. Because he has not agreed on a classic flat rent or flat ancillary costs. Because there are many pitfalls with that. The way he does it is manageable - but far from the classic flat rate and the mentioned pitfalls.

It should also be noted that I have been a fully qualified businessman (juristically) for over 26 years ;-)

We were aware of the possible pitfalls (my brother rents out in the same way). But we accept the small risk for the benefits of the win-win situation

It should be noted that I have been a fully qualified merchant (legally) for over 26 years ;-) We were aware of the possible pitfalls (my brother rents out in the same way). But we accept the small risk for the benefits of the win-win situation

Then hopefully the legal advice helped you???