RotesDach
2024-02-13 11:39:58
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Hello dear forum,
we built a single-family house new in 2020. However, for various reasons we are not completely satisfied and are considering possibly building again. But we want to take our time with that (time horizon 5-10 years), so that we are really sure about what exactly we want to change then. In addition, we can save more equity during that time and observe everyday life with the children. We have the experience that everyday life with 3-4 children simply requires a lot of flexibility in the house, because it feels like the needs of all family members change quickly. Hence this quite long time span.
When we started planning the house in 2019, from today's perspective we did not always make the right decisions. With the first and later the second child and also due to the lockdown, unfortunately we could not see or visit everything that was installed beforehand in person. Contact with the architect from the house building company was also too sparse. We often simply lacked advice there.
My question to you now is: How do we avoid making the same mistakes again when building next time? We always had to decide very quickly and often had no basis for decisions at all. We would have liked to simply be able to quickly view prices and services; but that was not available in that way. For example, if we planned an additional window or increased the living area, we received a new total price and could only guess how expensive the extra charge for something was.
We have experienced that the house building company only builds as they always do, i.e. when we asked for something unusual, the answer was that it was not possible at all. For example, we wanted a large panoramic glass window front that is barrier-free and slideable. That was not possible for structural reasons in our house. Our house building company probably simply did not have that in their program or the margin was too low for something like that.
What annoys me especially is our roof. It is not convertible. It is a low hipped roof made of nail plate trusses. There is not enough standing height for living space inside, and the structure is not designed for an expansion. At that time, we did not discuss the roof at all with the architect. The catalog house, on which our free planning was based, originally had a gable roof: exactly what we would wish for today. The architect always spoke of a city villa that we would be building. So we adopted that term at some point. As laypeople, we simply understood that as a house with two full floors. In the eyes of the architect of the house building company, however, a city villa also implied a hipped roof. That she switched from the gable roof from the first planning to this non-convertible hipped roof was not communicated at all and we only realized this far too late. Of course, one can always say that we should have noticed that. But at some point we simply wanted to finish the project. The two-year construction period with two small children was really exhausting.
For the second house building, we now want to do everything right or make as few mistakes as possible, which is why we are also taking so much time with the preliminary planning this time. Surely we will not build with the same house building company anymore.
BUT: Is this the experience you have with the relevant (prefabricated) house building companies? If you want something special like the panoramic window front, is it better to go to an architect? You pay them by the hour, after all. I have concerns that an architect overall would be the more expensive solution. If it should be a house building company, should we rather choose one that has specialized in our style? Huf-Haus comes to mind. Unfortunately also very expensive. Maybe someone of you has had similar experiences with poor communication and advice, especially in the Corona period?
Is there another solution besides house building company or architect that we do not even think of? We just want to be involved in all decisions and not be patronized like the first time building.
If it is something above average (in size and equipment) that we are looking for, is an architect then more worthwhile than changing so much on a catalog house that it ultimately only becomes more expensive?
Thanks for reading. I know the post is long.
we built a single-family house new in 2020. However, for various reasons we are not completely satisfied and are considering possibly building again. But we want to take our time with that (time horizon 5-10 years), so that we are really sure about what exactly we want to change then. In addition, we can save more equity during that time and observe everyday life with the children. We have the experience that everyday life with 3-4 children simply requires a lot of flexibility in the house, because it feels like the needs of all family members change quickly. Hence this quite long time span.
When we started planning the house in 2019, from today's perspective we did not always make the right decisions. With the first and later the second child and also due to the lockdown, unfortunately we could not see or visit everything that was installed beforehand in person. Contact with the architect from the house building company was also too sparse. We often simply lacked advice there.
My question to you now is: How do we avoid making the same mistakes again when building next time? We always had to decide very quickly and often had no basis for decisions at all. We would have liked to simply be able to quickly view prices and services; but that was not available in that way. For example, if we planned an additional window or increased the living area, we received a new total price and could only guess how expensive the extra charge for something was.
We have experienced that the house building company only builds as they always do, i.e. when we asked for something unusual, the answer was that it was not possible at all. For example, we wanted a large panoramic glass window front that is barrier-free and slideable. That was not possible for structural reasons in our house. Our house building company probably simply did not have that in their program or the margin was too low for something like that.
What annoys me especially is our roof. It is not convertible. It is a low hipped roof made of nail plate trusses. There is not enough standing height for living space inside, and the structure is not designed for an expansion. At that time, we did not discuss the roof at all with the architect. The catalog house, on which our free planning was based, originally had a gable roof: exactly what we would wish for today. The architect always spoke of a city villa that we would be building. So we adopted that term at some point. As laypeople, we simply understood that as a house with two full floors. In the eyes of the architect of the house building company, however, a city villa also implied a hipped roof. That she switched from the gable roof from the first planning to this non-convertible hipped roof was not communicated at all and we only realized this far too late. Of course, one can always say that we should have noticed that. But at some point we simply wanted to finish the project. The two-year construction period with two small children was really exhausting.
For the second house building, we now want to do everything right or make as few mistakes as possible, which is why we are also taking so much time with the preliminary planning this time. Surely we will not build with the same house building company anymore.
BUT: Is this the experience you have with the relevant (prefabricated) house building companies? If you want something special like the panoramic window front, is it better to go to an architect? You pay them by the hour, after all. I have concerns that an architect overall would be the more expensive solution. If it should be a house building company, should we rather choose one that has specialized in our style? Huf-Haus comes to mind. Unfortunately also very expensive. Maybe someone of you has had similar experiences with poor communication and advice, especially in the Corona period?
Is there another solution besides house building company or architect that we do not even think of? We just want to be involved in all decisions and not be patronized like the first time building.
If it is something above average (in size and equipment) that we are looking for, is an architect then more worthwhile than changing so much on a catalog house that it ultimately only becomes more expensive?
Thanks for reading. I know the post is long.