Assessment of the buildability of a large plot according to §34

  • Erstellt am 2017-02-17 00:04:59

11ant

2017-02-18 13:59:03
  • #1


What I primarily meant was: same location - same outlines - just two stories, and you would already have a reference point that the building authority would have to approve. If placed elsewhere, they might be more reluctant. Or if it were significantly larger or rotated along the longitudinal axis compared to the existing building.

Secondarily, I also definitely meant not to discard well-maintained structure carelessly, especially since demolition including the cellar is quite an effort. If you then rebuild in a similar spot, excavate anew, install new house leads, a small compromise can be a big saver (in the worst case, where the dream new location would be just a meter further).

With really good architects, you can’t tell from which style decade the "starting material" came - and not even that the "new building" is actually a conversion.
 

Nordlys

2017-02-18 18:51:59
  • #2
One should not forget what the 34 wants. Regulate development in a socially acceptable way in built-up areas without a development plan. That means you look at the development in the immediate vicinity, two streets away does not count, but rather the houses to the left, right, and opposite. Do I have a uniform alignment to the street? First-floor height? Only gables or also flat roofs, shed roofs? Etc. What is allowed as new construction is then based on that. Therefore, I do not consider maintaining parts of the old stock to be purposeful. Rather, analyze exactly what is already there and adapt to it. Or if you do not want or cannot do that, hands off. Refusing a multi-family house by the building authority, for example, I see as only okay based on the provided photos.
 

ypg

2017-02-18 20:15:54
  • #3
I was only able to see two pictures.
It would be nice if you could provide the photos as an attachment for all users here.
I can understand wanting to enforce one’s own wishes for a single-family house on a plot... however, for me the local and ecological aspects also count.
When I look at the first two photos that I accessed via the links, it breaks my heart to just tear down such a beautiful "old" building – it apparently has all the timeless qualities one could wish for in a bungalow. For me, building at ground level would also be the first choice, if you can afford it or if the [BePlan] allows it. There are so many beautiful symbioses of old and new...

Regards, Yvonne
 

Nordlys

2017-02-18 20:28:50
  • #4
A toast to apple, see all the pictures. And see, the forest path, and only the interested one consists of low fences and hedges, of max. 1.5 stories with a gable roof, no city villas, no two-story buildings, many flat bungalows, so... now apply 34 and see for yourself what works....
 

ypg

2017-02-18 20:35:31
  • #5
Off Topic:
Sorry ... I have the apple... however, I am not sitting somewhere in front of it, but holding it in my hand.
It is also tedious to have to argue with users to make direct downloads instead of linking to external sites.
I have other pages open too - if I open 8 files, then I have 8 more windows open here. But since I have to please several users with my answers, it quickly becomes confusing.
It is a comfortable service for everyone, please use it as well, @all and

Regards, Yvonne
 

11ant

2017-02-18 20:52:52
  • #6


Regarding the opposite neighbors' forest road, I also see it that way, that they should all be considered together - those who share at least one property corner from zur Ville and Vorgebirgsweg as well. It would also be appropriate to count the entire block (same parcel numbers before the slash) as part of the "surroundings," in equality to zoning plan cases.
 

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