Air-water heat pump, gas, solar thermal prefab house, advantages and disadvantages?

  • Erstellt am 2016-03-24 16:43:55

wrobel

2016-03-25 19:32:31
  • #1


Good morning

It has already been said that only gas is really practical, but a tank is rubbish and otherwise only a heat pump is somewhat fault-tolerant.
That excludes all other heat generators.


Olli
 

Legurit

2016-03-25 19:51:22
  • #2
That was not meant like that... but the OP asks very blindly into the forest and expects simple black-and-white answers - that is what he got... and the hint that you need an HLB to make any statements.
 

wrobel

2016-03-25 20:19:21
  • #3
Hello again

that was also expressed somewhat ironically by me.
The questioner asks and gets a black and white answer.

I have made it a habit in such conversations to ask what the customer's wishes are, what options they have, what is important to them about the building services/heat generation.
And then suddenly options like pellets, firewood, and solar thermal appear.

Olli
 

Rübe1

2016-03-26 07:28:11
  • #4
His problem is actually not the heating. The demand for that can be determined fairly reliably. His problem will be the hot water demand. When I read 2 houses, then suddenly (maybe not today, but in the future) quite a few liters of water can accumulate. And suddenly, if already 4 people want to shower one after the other, possibly extensively. Then, with a heat pump, the meter starts to spin. And that, possibly or especially in [Winter]. Now, of course, you can size the heat pump accordingly, but then it is probably completely oversized for the majority of the time. Additionally, there is the legionella problem with storage, etc. etc. I always wonder why the home builder doesn’t offer a concept for these things, or in the [Energieeinsparverordnung]-proof something should be stated, or is it a brand: sell anyway, the rest don’t care?
 

IGORR

2016-03-26 15:53:43
  • #5
It is basically a single-family house... There are 2 small bungalows, one with 3 bedrooms and a bathroom, the other with kitchen, dining, living room, utility room, and storage room. They are separated by a hallway, which also leads to the basement. So a total of 220 sqm. It is fully basemented. But 100 sqm are for a garage. The other 120 sqm still have to be communicated. The bungalows and the hallway will be a prefab house, the basement will be built with masonry! We are 2 adults and 2 children, or eventually 3... Only the following options come into question: Geothermal energy - ruled out, soil too rocky. Pellets - ruled out, no space for it and too complicated for me. Oil - no one installs that anymore today. Gas possibly in combination with solar thermal, would be an option. And air-to-water heat pump possibly in combination with photovoltaics, would be an option. We will get the heating load calculation and the energy certificate soon, we have just signed... I think in terms of costs, also long-term, both systems won't differ much even over a long period... What do you think?
 

EveundGerd

2016-03-26 19:42:18
  • #6
Have you ever considered a combined heat and power plant for the size?
 

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