air heat pump, water-based fireplace stove, functioning, underfloor heating?

  • Erstellt am 2012-02-24 10:52:36

phobos

2012-02-24 10:52:36
  • #1
Hello!

Who can explain to me how an outdoor air heat pump works in conjunction with a non-water-based wood stove? I simply can't find any explanation online about how this works technically.

This system seems to be right for us because we want underfloor heating in a new single-family house and a wood stove for the cozy warmth anyway.

Thanks in advance for the info.

Regards phobos
 

€uro

2012-02-24 11:32:27
  • #2
Hello,
Counter-question:
1. What is an outdoor air heat pump?
2. How does the responsible HVAC planner assess the matter?

Best regards.
 

phobos

2012-02-24 12:09:20
  • #3


1. Air/water heat pump installed outdoors
2. MEP planner? What is an MEP planner and why would I need one?
I just want to understand the principle and (for now) not plan.

best regards
phobos
 

€uro

2012-02-24 12:56:23
  • #4
Yes, so what now, complete or only evaporator (split system)? Fully modulating or not?
TGA => Technical Building Equipment.
You need one if a system is actually supposed to run with low operating costs. Alternatively, you can trust the sellers of some "nonplusultra" solutions ;)
That is relatively simple: There are two heat generators, whereby the wood stove does not bring a sustainable effect, only a temporary "cosy result".

rgds
 

phobos

2012-02-24 13:13:08
  • #5


So I don't understand the part about the sustainable effect that supposedly doesn't bring anything. I have already read other articles (not few) in which a bivalent heat pump is preferable. Reason: On cold days, the heat pump is supported and the electricity costs are supposed to be reduced as a result.

That is precisely the reason for the wood stove. And there is a water-carrying and a non-water-carrying one. The latter is, among other things, cheaper to purchase and fully serves the purpose.

I don't want to justify here why I choose or should choose this or that system. That will come when I really plan definitively.

In advance, I just wanted to know how this combination works.

Regards phobos
 

€uro

2012-02-24 14:22:32
  • #6
Unfortunately, I can’t change that! But: How many % more effective annual heating work can the wood stove provide overall, not just related to the room it’s installed in, actually with a JNG < 50%? Wood for free or do you have to buy it? How high is the heating load of the stove’s installation room compared to the total heating load of the building?
What exactly is a bivalent heat pump? Parallel, alternative, monoenergetic? What does the bivalence refer to? Is usage behavior taken into account?
Well then, have fun! What energy balance is behind that?
Which purpose? To make things a bit warm occasionally? ;)
That’s not necessary at all! :) Everyone believes in whatever someone sold them in whatever form.;) There is a word for this in professional circles: consultation resistance!
It makes warmth, but whether it is economically reasonable overall is a completely different matter!

best regards
 

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