20% humidity in KFW 40+ new construction

  • Erstellt am 2023-03-03 08:43:26

motorradsilke

2023-03-05 11:53:19
  • #1
When ventilating manually, you can control it better. You just close the window when the desired humidity is reached. You also don’t have to run through the house; you can just walk normally ;). You only have a mold risk if you don’t observe the whole process and don’t adjust accordingly.
 

Nida35a

2023-03-05 11:53:30
  • #2

In the heating load/energy class calculation of our house without controlled residential ventilation,
the heat losses through ventilation are about 1/4 of the total losses.
3/4 are all other components, such as the floor slab, walls, windows, roof, etc.
 

motorradsilke

2023-03-05 11:59:21
  • #3


And that is about 500 to 600 kWh per year. How many kWh does the controlled residential ventilation consume per year? And what did it cost to purchase?

For us, ventilating twice (morning and evening) plus once more when lighting the fireplace in the living room is more than enough to maintain a comfortable humidity level. You shouldn't forget either that the front door is opened several times a day, letting fresh air in.
 

RotorMotor

2023-03-05 11:59:36
  • #4

Oh man, now windows can also be "controlled" better than a device designed for it, equipped with sensors and control technology.


Are you only concerned about humidity?
Yeah, fits well with this thread, but:
CO2, VOC, other pollutants don't matter to you?
 

WilderSueden

2023-03-05 12:48:19
  • #5

I don’t know the calculation. But I would be interested under which assumptions you arrive at that range.
For me, the assumptions are approximately as follows:
100 days x 20 degrees difference x 3 air changes x 2.5m room height x 0.33 Wh -> 5 kWh (winter)
90 days x 10 degrees x 3 air changes x 2.5m x 0.33 Wh -> 2.2 kWh (transition period)
That would be, in this example, about 7.2 kWh/m². That should be quite close to the range that officially calculated. Of course, this is only an approximation. Cooling of the furniture is not included, while at the same time the furniture also reduces the air volume. With correct shock ventilation (as long as it is possible with the wind conditions), almost only air is exchanged. Of course, if someone showers in the morning, then opens the bathroom window and returns after half an hour of breakfast, that has little to do with the calculation. Likewise tilted windows, etc.
Whether 3 air changes are sufficient is debatable. But more than 3 times airing out is certainly unrealistic. For most people, I would even assume 2 times a day. See Silke ;)
 

motorradsilke

2023-03-05 16:43:15
  • #6

But the counter calculation is still missing, what the controlled residential ventilation itself consumes.
I have googled a bit now and found values from 200 to 500 kwh/year. So even assuming 200 kwh to 500 kwh for ventilation, I would save 300 kwh, which is 60 euros per year. Economically, it would no longer pay off in my lifetime, even if electricity prices rise.
 

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