Windows with roller shutters in new construction, solution for planning problem?

Box roller shutters are great, but with us they disappear unobtrusively because they are flush with the brickwork and therefore do not protrude. We mainly wanted that so you can access it from the outside and don’t have to open something inside and replaster and repaint. But I don’t understand why anyone would want external roller shutters with internal revision, that defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

I don't quite understand that now... I don't necessarily want surface-mounted or facing-mounted roller shutters. What I would like to have, I described in the first post:

How could a safe, sensible, and cost-effective selection and installation of windows with roller shutters look like in the existing wall structure here?

Again, the given and required details: Wall structure: 20cm sand-lime brick + 16cm mineral wool Window U-value required according to energy saving regulation calculation min. 0.94 (= triple glazing) RC2 certified installation and assembly Roller shutters on all doors and windows Ideally, the roller shutters could be plastered from the outside, current wish of my wife Doors up to max 120cm width (installation dimension) and 240cm height (without roller shutter) Windows up to 2m width and 1.63m height (2-leaf)

How and with what this can be achieved, I am basically quite open at first. But as soon as you have external revision, you have to be able to remove the guide rails from the outside to remove the inspection flap. And that means the rails cannot disappear into the facade but must sit on the frame. And that probably means, if I understood correctly, that the additional plastic profiles on the sides become necessary, which cost 23,-/m again. Additionally, you either have to cover them inside or live with a 16cm wide edge (calculated without the sash, which comes on top), and we don't like that either. Besides, from the outside you can't reach them as easily and simply on the first floor as on the ground floor.

If I misunderstood something there, I am happy to be corrected, which is why I am asking here.

I'm not a professional at this and didn't want to confuse you any further, sorry
Then I probably read that wrong.

I hope I have presented the problem well and correctly and would be very happy if someone could say something about it.

Best regards to all,

Marc

1. It is a planning task of your architect and not of a window manufacturer. Only when the window planning is finalized will it be tendered. In this respect, I am surprised that you already have a window manufacturer.

2. If you want the all-in-one solution, you will have to pay more. Then it will be insulated external roller shutters that sit in front of the masonry and not, as in your case, in front of the frame doubling of the window element (which I find quite poor). You will hardly avoid a frame doubling (with steel reinforcement) of 25mm on the left and right respectively (optically in my opinion unproblematic) in order to eliminate the thermal bridge, since the frame is insulated by 30mm. The crux of the matter is that, with your window sizes, the ETICS would increase to 24cm.

Thank you very much for your contribution.

Yes, it is the architect's job, right. But in my opinion, even an architect cannot know everything, and it could also simply have been an oversight, misunderstanding, or other cause for a fundamentally wrong result, which is why I asked the person who does this every day, the window maker.
Actually, not even "our" window maker, but "a" window maker to whom we were sent by the architect, but initially only about the front door. Although I didn't really say that?
Because the gentleman seemed so nice and competent and also had a comprehensive exhibition of various windows, we immediately had him show us what all this was, what the differences are, etc.
And because the detail shown above was on the plan, the topic came up as well.

I have now chosen the easiest way for me (and in terms of the commissions, in my opinion, actually the right one):
I connected the architect and the window maker and communicated my wish list (see above) to both. The two have now discussed the matter with each other and it has turned out that there was a small misunderstanding in communication regarding the externally visible roller shutter box.
However, I can only report on the exact result once we have had another joint appointment.