What kind of survey do I need? Survey before the soil report?

[*](Official) site plan with the planning-relevant topography (houses, paths, roads, etc.) for the location and height categorization of the planned construction project as well as project design with all necessary calculations

Hello Bauexperte,

that is exactly what our architect is doing, as all data is available (based on the developer’s planning including height information, other houses are not yet built). I never said that we can submit the building application without a site plan – only that the site plan does not have to be made by the surveyor.

"See §3 of the BauPrüfVO paragraph 3 ...In all other cases, these building documents can also be prepared by the designer." Smarty mode off

Rhineland regards back

Hi I would like to join in with the questions about the costs that the thread starter also asked. I also want to build in NRW and have received an offer from the surveyor who also created the subdivision plan for the new development area. The following items are listed: unofficial location plan according to §3 BauPrüfVO 675 + VAT rough staking 250 + VAT fine staking 400 + VAT building survey § 16 VermKatG 664 + VAT My question: do you need all these surveying services, or is the subdivision plan of the new development area enough for the first item? Second question: are the costs within the usual range, or should I get further offers? For the last item, a 20% discount is already included due to joint execution with other surveys in the new development area. Thanks in advance for helpful answers Explosiv

Hello,




These are then completely different - and also rather rare - conditions. In your case, the preliminary site plan including all necessary details is already available (commissioned by the development authority and created by a surveyor).

That your architect is then "allowed" to draw the planned building structure into the preliminary site plan is clear to me, although even this often meets with grumbling from the responsible building authority.

In all other cases, a surveyor is an essential requirement; also in NRW. By the way, you will still need a surveyor for the final measurement (when your house is finished).

Rhenish greetings

Hello Bauexperte,

when a site plan must be officially submitted and mandatorily prepared by a publicly appointed surveyor engineer is regulated in the respective building inspection regulations of the states. In NRW it is BauPrüfVO §3, paragraph (3):

(3) The site plan (paragraph 1) and the calculations according to paragraph 2 must be prepared by a cadastral office or by a publicly appointed surveyor engineer and certified with public faith (official site plan), if
1. the boundaries of the building plot are not established boundaries within the meaning of § 19 paragraph 1 VermKatG,
2. the boundaries of the building plot and the existing structures on the building plot and the adjacent plots are surveyed in such a way that coordinates for the boundary points cannot be determined in a unified system, or
3. there are encroachments on the boundaries on the building plot or from adjacent plots,
4. a building encumbrance within the meaning of § 18 rests on the building plot or on the adjacent plots.



In all other cases, the site plan for the building application can and may be submitted by architects or other design authors, even if the building authority grumbles. Partially, the building authorities also require official site plans, although these are not legally required, but this usually only happens when it also makes sense. It is also not the case that this must be associated with additional costs for the customer.

Best regards
Dirk Grafe

Hello,

when a site plan must be officially submitted and must be prepared by a publicly appointed surveyor, is regulated in the relevant building inspection regulations of the states.

That is known to me; that is why I responded accordingly

Rhenish greetings