Wall or roof penetrations (external/supply air): how did you install them?

  • Erstellt am 2016-05-27 07:53:11

Robbaut

2016-06-02 07:54:11
  • #1
Do you know if this has ever been studied anywhere or do you have some sources for your statements? Regarding the combined supply/exhaust air at the exterior wall, I found the flow diagram from Vallox convincing; with the valves above the door, they always argue with long-throw valves and the Coanda effect. However, I am not an expert in fluid mechanics and am happy to be proven otherwise...
 

Sebastian79

2016-06-02 08:08:46
  • #2
I can only refer to my conversations with an engineer for such ventilation systems and the plans of my supplier plus the planning aids from Helios/Zehnder – these are quite simple principles.

The Coanda effect is also described there, but it is not taken as an effect that "allows" valves above the doors.

I am certainly not an expert either. I just don’t trust such isolated statements from companies that then pull such "miracle things" out of the hat, while the whole rest still plans it conventionally with two offset inlets and outlets.
 

bortel

2016-06-02 08:52:56
  • #3
Yes, that only one of the Vallox units is needed I have also seen. That is why the ventilation specialist was very skeptical, especially because of the cross-sections as well. I am now taking the thermal bridge-free one from Westaflex. Fresh air on the north and exhaust air on the south, then I will have no further roof penetrations.
 

Sebastian79

2016-06-02 09:02:33
  • #4
I'll take photos for you tonight
 

Mycraft

2016-06-02 09:36:04
  • #5


That is not incorrect.

The intended use as fresh air and exhaust air grille presupposes that:

- the system was planned that way from the start
- the two ducts lie next to each other in the wall
- the ventilation installer knows the system
- the ventilation installer cooperates.

There are simply too many "ifs" to answer the simple question about a ventilation grille. That is why I simply recommend installing two of them.

It's nice that the grille works properly for you. However, your system was specifically designed for that.

Most ventilation installers do not know the grille and convincing them otherwise is a science in itself. Alternatively, they simply do not assume any warranty.
 

nms_hs

2016-06-02 10:34:28
  • #6


Our Helios system, planned by Helios, also only has a facade combination grille.
 

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