I once worked for 15 years in Hamburg, about 35 km from me. Most of the time it could be reached by car within 25 minutes directly, and during shift work there were no traffic jams or parking problems. For 10 years I have had a 10 km/10 minutes commute. Great thing, unfortunately I am always late! With our new property I was lucky: I did not move closer to my workplace, but closer to a potential job change that I want to make someday. My previous residence would have prevented me from making the change, because otherwise it would have been 25 km through the villages into the city. No traffic lights, but wild animal crossings, dangerous curves and traffic jams at intersections for left turners. That is called complaining at a high level ;) Nevertheless: in our village, the lights go out at Edeka on Saturday at 1:30 pm. A train station can only be reached by car or bus. And the bus runs 3? times a day... but in return there is a daycare center, kindergarten and elementary school, local administration, cobbler, doctors and so on. Our Edeka arranges transports for cleaning for the seniors in the village. For me then also sometimes ;) So if you add up the car trips that one has to make after work to Aldi, Budni and so on (that's how it is in the province), you also get a good km/time average per day or week. By the way, back then colleagues who had to cover 60 km and more by car were always sick when there was fresh snow at night or an ice warning... those who think badly of it... :rolleyes: The rule is: you have to talk yourself into liking the route you have or make it nice. One with a good book on the train, another buying eggs from the farmer... if the commute plays too negative a role in life, you should consider if you can change something. Best regards Yvonne