Shower WC Reviews

And afterwards, the child puts their little fingers back in their mouth. Somehow, that doesn’t exactly sound appetizing.

Where there is concrete talk here:

Studies show that the average German toilet is orders of magnitude cleaner than the surfaces in the average German kitchen. So much for microfauna, fingers in the mouth, etc.

Especially contaminated are the normal kitchen cloths, with which you then spread nice bacterial films on the countertops. Toilet seats are significantly cleaner in comparison.

Just pointing out the priorities set in a hygiene discussion. Where you defecate is usually cleaner than where you eat. Only it’s just not obvious.

Typical Western bathrooms are optimal in terms of body hygiene for personal care, but by far not in the area of the toilet. The sitting position of a standard toilet, which is perceived as comfortable, runs counter to the body’s ergonomics during evacuation, and a lot of cleaning effort must be exerted for that reason alone.

Of course, water can clean better when done properly.

In a bidet, you can clean quite excellently (unlike the extending and retracting arms of toilets, which you can't reach), and besides, you wash your hands in the water jet, not in the basin.

I think you have probably never done your business on such a toilet. Of course, you can reach the water jet arm for cleaning, and if necessary, the spray heads can also be replaced. Additionally, the water jet arms (at least in our model) clean themselves automatically after each "use"....so that is definitely not an argument.

That’s just about the priorities set in a hygiene discussion.

I have heard that too, but one should probably differentiate a bit there, because germ is not just germ, right? I’m not sure that the studies make statements that the contamination in German kitchens with fecal germs (E.coli and co.) is higher than in bathrooms... and isn’t it primarily about those when we talk about hygiene in the bathroom?
For me, it’s more of a disgust, which is emotional in nature and therefore can’t really be tackled with objective studies.

I think you have probably never done your business on such a toilet.

It's always the same.
If you don't have KNX, KNX is crap...
If you don't have a basement, the basement is crap...
If you don't have a shower toilet, the shower toilet is crap...

On the topic:

I have a heat pump dryer and a coffee machine, both of which supposedly clean themselves - let's just say, since then I no longer trust devices that claim they can do that. And sure, you can reach the spray arm itself, but not the hole it goes into. And even if there were a model that handled this aspect to my satisfaction, by principle no shower toilet can do anything better than a bidet. Except that it saves a bit of space, but it can't be used nearly as versatile. Unfair rhetorical devices won't help either.

: No idea how you conclude that they are shower WCs when someone just has questions about the topic/system and doesn’t immediately shout “great, great *applause*” [emoji6] For my part, I asked out of interest and can’t make use of it for the reasons stated. But that doesn’t mean the whole system is useless and wouldn’t benefit the fans of it. At least it doesn’t mean that to me, seems like your situation is a bit different?